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Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Bugs are always bad (and security bugs even more so) - but I've always felt that Flash gets a disproportional amount of hate/hype in the media. To some degree it should be normal that the more widespread a technology is - the more it gets targeted for security exploits. If you run the popular browsers/plugins against the National Vulnerability Database, you'd get the following results (as of January 2014): - Internet…

Yes, but Flash alone doubles the attack vector of a browser - that's nothing to be sneezed at. I think it's particularly poignant when you look at the high severity metric.

I am not sure the attack vector argument is 100% valid here, as flash replacement technologies constantly add attack vectors to modern browsers, too. Many traditional Flash features are now covered by webGL accelerated browser functionality, like accelerated 2D canvas elements. My guess would be that this browser-gpu bridge creates a whole zoo of GPU driver related security issues which attackers might focus on once flash is completely obsolete. (My money is on a remote code execution vulnerability in the Firefox Adobe DRM module.)

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

The final act of HTML5 delusion - it becomes "ready" because we say it's "ready". It's just someone forgot to ask Flash (game) developers' opinion. Not that it matters, right?

It's a click away.

And calling it unsafe, well, that's the truth.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The final act of HTML5 delusion - it becomes "ready" because we say it's "ready". It's just someone forgot to ask Flash (game) developers' opinion. Not that it matters, right?

And since when you have to please everybody ? Flash developers are a minority, and they have no power to influence the market. The sooner Adobe abandons the dead horse, the better for all of us. Kevin has gone away for years now, and Adobe's force is not based on Flash anymore (disclaimer: I own Adobe stock)

Its not like html5 has all of the features required to replace flash cross platform. These changes force developers, especially those that work in video publishing to implement a variety of implementations for each device whereas flash gave us one platform that technically works on everything but is now disabled intentionally.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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God will Flash just die already. Firefox is my primary browser and I run it without Flash. On the very odd occasion I need it I have IE in protected mode which has Flash built in. If a site does use Flash I will seek an alternative though as I hate it that much. On a side note Firefox without Flash is so much smoother. IMHO it is the fastest and most stable browser when it doesn't have Flash bogging it down.

Will someone actually go ahead and implement the required features in the browsers? Last I checked there is still no cross-platform way to do video publishing without flash. The option we now all have is multiple platform specific implementations.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

Does anyone know why this is showing up on Github as well? I just saw this banner when I logged in. Why would Github be using Flash?

(A quick Google search shows they used to use it for the network graph but it is now Canvas.)

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Overall, it's a good thing. Flash is a proprietary technology from the past. Lets move on guys...

To what? Last I checked the browsers haven't implemented a proper means of doing cross-platform video publishing (video + audio) reliably yet.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

The final act of HTML5 delusion - it becomes "ready" because we say it's "ready". It's just someone forgot to ask Flash (game) developers' opinion. Not that it matters, right?

You really think the opinion of game developers should matter in a discussion about how to make browsers reasonably secure for people to use without getting their hosts compromised? Because I don't.

Anger towards browser developers or HTML5 is misplaced; you should be angry with Adobe for the fact that Flash is buggy, insecure, and closed-source.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

The final act of HTML5 delusion - it becomes "ready" because we say it's "ready". It's just someone forgot to ask Flash (game) developers' opinion. Not that it matters, right?

I know HTML5 doesn't have all of Flash features, but as a user, I'm glad that I won't see random pages using flash without need.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

Does anyone know why this is showing up on Github as well? I just saw this banner when I logged in. Why would Github be using Flash? (A quick Google search shows they used to use it for the network graph but it is now Canvas.)

Github uses flash for the 'copy to clipboard' button to copy an http or ssh url to the clipboard.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

Does anyone know why this is showing up on Github as well? I just saw this banner when I logged in. Why would Github be using Flash? (A quick Google search shows they used to use it for the network graph but it is now Canvas.)

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