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Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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If you had told me that would be today's headline at any point over the past decade, I'm not sure I would have believed you.

If this works out, the President has another thing to add to his list of "things no President before me achieved".

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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Let's hope this works out better than the North Korean nuclear deal.

Lack of access to military sites could be a reason this deal fails as the agreement provides stipulation for inspectors to press for military locations although the access is not guaranteed.

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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Am i the only one amazed at the fact that we actually had to wait for iranians to accept to stop going toward nuclear weapons ?

I mean, why did EU and US insist so much on wanting a deal ? It seemed to be that one side has all the leverage in the negociation and the other has none. We could have simply waited for the iranian regime to get so weakened that they'd simply surrender and accept every measure.

So I don't understand what's the counterpart that the US and EU wanted from Iran, that could get Iran get leverage in the negociations. Anyone ?

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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post #3

If you had told me that would be today's headline at any point over the past decade, I'm not sure I would have believed you. If this works out, the President has another thing to add to his list of "things no President before me achieved".

Out of curiosity, what else would be on that list?

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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post #5

Am i the only one amazed at the fact that we actually had to wait for iranians to accept to stop going toward nuclear weapons ? I mean, why did EU and US insist so much on wanting a deal ? It seemed to be that one side has all the leverage in the negociation and the other has none. We could have simply waited for the iranian regime to get so weakened that they'd simply surrender and accept every measure. So I don't u…

I don't quite understand your question. You are asking what Iran wanted from the EU and US and what they wanted from Iran?

EU&US: Don't develop nuclear weapons. Iran: Stop the sanctions, let us sell our oil.

Is that what you were asking for?

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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post #5

Am i the only one amazed at the fact that we actually had to wait for iranians to accept to stop going toward nuclear weapons ? I mean, why did EU and US insist so much on wanting a deal ? It seemed to be that one side has all the leverage in the negociation and the other has none. We could have simply waited for the iranian regime to get so weakened that they'd simply surrender and accept every measure. So I don't u…

How exactly do you expect the iranian regime to get weakened?

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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post #5

Am i the only one amazed at the fact that we actually had to wait for iranians to accept to stop going toward nuclear weapons ? I mean, why did EU and US insist so much on wanting a deal ? It seemed to be that one side has all the leverage in the negociation and the other has none. We could have simply waited for the iranian regime to get so weakened that they'd simply surrender and accept every measure. So I don't u…

Well, Iran has being saying for years that they aren't working towards nuclear weapons, so there's no obvious change there.

(No idea if they are lying or not; there's been no clear 'smoking gun' evidence proving them wrong, just lots of potential 'dual use' nuclear research that could be for legitimate nuclear development or otherwise...)

Re: Iran Nuclear Deal Reached

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post #5

Am i the only one amazed at the fact that we actually had to wait for iranians to accept to stop going toward nuclear weapons ? I mean, why did EU and US insist so much on wanting a deal ? It seemed to be that one side has all the leverage in the negociation and the other has none. We could have simply waited for the iranian regime to get so weakened that they'd simply surrender and accept every measure. So I don't u…

A prolonged weakened economy doesn't necessarily prevent a country from developing a nuclear weapons program. Take a look at North Korea.
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