So basically Canada doesn't want any east Europe citizen.
First Year University Expenses in Canada
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Re: First Year University Expenses in Canada
#32Some context here: 1) This is for one , 4 month term at university in Canada (uwaterloo specifically) for an engineering degree. Other degrees are lesser in cost (math is similar, which includes CS) A lot of the miscellaneous fees drop off in the second term (you only pay them once per year). 2) These are domestic fees, international fees are much higher (approx 3x) but still only around 1/3rd of the international US…
Would it be cheaper to go study, say in Germany? Education is free and your expenses are food and roof?
Higher education is not free in Germany. It may seem like "free" compared to the US and Canada, but there are still minor fees. Don't get me wrong, it's vastly cheaper to study in Germany than in other western countries.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would it be cheaper to go study, say in Germany? Education is free and your expenses are food and roof?
Higher education is not free in Germany. It may seem like "free" compared to the US and Canada, but there are still minor fees. Don't get me wrong, it's vastly cheaper to study in Germany than in other western countries.
To elaborate on "minor fees": For the current semester (6 months), a student at a public university in Cologne pays around €250 [0][1].
For the FH Köln, the exact amount is €246.20. This comprises the following:
* Administrative fee for "Kölner Studentenwerk", providing services such as cheap apartments or help with financial questions: €68.00
* Public transport ticket for the VRS region (around Cologne): €116.80
* Addon ticket for public transport in the whole state (NRW): €48.10
* Fee for the student council ("AStA"): €13.10
* Solidarity contribution (for Eastern Germany): €0.20
There may be additional fees for some courses, such as 100€ for "study material" for distant learning courses. Public universities may also offer some courses that require you to pay, as the FH Köln does for their Master's program for Game Development. However, the vast majority of courses don't require such fees.
Of course, there are also private universities. Their fees are roughly €400-€700/month.
[0] For the FH Köln: https://www.fh-koeln.de/en/academics/fees_5908.php [1] For the University Köln: http://verwaltung.uni-koeln.de/studsek/content/studium/rueck...
Re: First Year University Expenses in Canada
#34For comparison:
Five Years (BS + MSc) University Expenses in Poland (University of Warsaw):
- Registration fee (for BS and MSc separately): 80 zł (~$25) * 2 = $50
- Hard copies of diplomas: 2 * 100 zł (~$30) = $60.
I am quite happy with the education I got there, and US companies seem to hold it pretty highly, based on how many people they hire out of my university.
Come to think of it, the diploma fee is not actually obligatory -- if you don't need the hard copy, you don't have to pay.
Oh, and there are fees for failing classes and having to repeat them, but there are also scholarships for doing well, so it cancels out.
Re: First Year University Expenses in Canada
#35For comparison: Five Years (BS + MSc) University Expenses in Poland (University of Warsaw): - Registration fee (for BS and MSc separately): 80 zł (~$25) * 2 = $50 - Hard copies of diplomas: 2 * 100 zł (~$30) = $60. I am quite happy with the education I got there, and US companies seem to hold it pretty highly, based on how many people they hire out of my university. Come to think of it, the diploma fee is not actuall…
Are you saying that University of Warsaw charges no tuition fees?
Re: First Year University Expenses in Canada
#36Why don't Americans go to Europe for their University degree?
- Because they'd have to live in Europe for the duration of that degree
- Because loans are harder to get or impossible, depending on circumstances
- Because grants are exceedingly rare in such a case
- Because despite (some) American's belief about Europe, it still costs money to study here, and living here is just as expensive as in the US. You won't be able to afford a car, for example, as a student (yes yes not all US students have one either, what I'm saying is that it's a significant adjustment to what many of them are used to)
- Because it results in a European degree, which may be only a small problem for some (US) employers, but is probably somewhere between 'hmm, peculiar' and 'hell no' for most of them
- Because they'd be away from 'home' for 4 years or more, unless they'd spend 5-10k over the course of those 4 years traveling back and forth
- Because outside of STEM (and even then), language issues are non-negligible
Re: First Year University Expenses in Canada
#37For comparison: Five Years (BS + MSc) University Expenses in Poland (University of Warsaw): - Registration fee (for BS and MSc separately): 80 zł (~$25) * 2 = $50 - Hard copies of diplomas: 2 * 100 zł (~$30) = $60. I am quite happy with the education I got there, and US companies seem to hold it pretty highly, based on how many people they hire out of my university. Come to think of it, the diploma fee is not actuall…
Are you saying that University of Warsaw charges no tuition fees?
Yep... That is what he said.
However please bear in mind that it it is free ONLY for the 38 million Polish citizens. Foreigners must pay something.
Ref: http://www.studyinpoland.pl/en/index.php/education-in-poland...
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#38Wow, college tuition is cheap in Canada. Would it be worthwhile for an American citizen to pay international fees to attend uWaterloo?
International rates in Canada are more than domestic. When I was there c. 2007, it was about $5500 for domestic and $15000 for international. It was still less than most American schools of comparable standing, although sometimes more than State schools' in-state rate.
At the moment you'd also be getting something like a 20% discount for the dollar exchange rate.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you saying that University of Warsaw charges no tuition fees?
Yep... That is what he said. However please bear in mind that it it is free ONLY for the 38 million Polish citizens. Foreigners must pay something. Ref: http://www.studyinpoland.pl/en/index.php/education-in-poland...
I still find that surprising. I actually am a Polish citizen (living in the UK) and I did not know that.
Re: First Year University Expenses in Canada
#40hmmm maybe east coast Canada is different from west coast? Here we have primarily commuter schools where vast majority of students live at home and use subsidized public transport (so no campus culture, isolated student body unless you join a club), apart from the international students who commute in Lambo and Ferraris (I'm sure they have no problem paying 10x what a Canadian pays). Living on campus first year was e…
How to tell a B.C.-raised person on the internet: They call Toronto or Waterloo "east coast" ;)
Waterloo is not a commuter school, a 45-minute one-way commute would be really bad. Schools outside the GTA are similar, few people decide to do stuff like live with parents in Chatham and drive to a school in London but it's not common. GTA schools will have longer commutes because it's bigger, rent close to schools tends to be expensive, and transport sucks.
But that's not unlike Metro Vancouver vs rest of B.C. really. I doubt many people do 3 hour commutes to UVic.