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Hillary Clinton Plans to Campaign Against Uber’s Contractor Economy

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Re: Hillary Clinton Plans to Campaign Against Uber’s Contractor Economy

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Post by ageek123 »

brc wrote: post #7

The reason airbnb and uber exist is because the prior business models are broken with regards to a big enough portion of their potential customers. A conversation with the average taxi driver will reveal the job is no ticket to the high life or consistent pay. The way forward is to get rid of the concept of 'benefits' packages and just let people work for a gross pay and let themselves choose their own benefits from…

> The way forward is ton get rid of the concept of 'benefits' packages and just let people work for a gross pay and let themselves choose their own benefits from that.

This. Among other things, it would go a long way towards fixing the health insurance problems in the country. One of the reasons the private health insurance market is so dysfunctional is that relatively few people participate in it (most people are covered by their employers).

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Post by Arainach »

brc wrote: post #7

The reason airbnb and uber exist is because the prior business models are broken with regards to a big enough portion of their potential customers. A conversation with the average taxi driver will reveal the job is no ticket to the high life or consistent pay. The way forward is to get rid of the concept of 'benefits' packages and just let people work for a gross pay and let themselves choose their own benefits from…

Without the bargaining power of large groups of employees, how will reasonable costs and levels of service be maintained? It's well established that people on their own without insurance get charged much higher rates than people with insurance get charged for the same procedures at the same hospitals. Presumably the same effects apply to individuals trying to obtain a price for insurance versus an employer bargaining for a group of employees.

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Post by duncan_bayne »

Natsu wrote: post #6

Hillary sat on the board of Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1992 and there aren't many places that exploit their workers much more than they do. It would have been nice if she had done some campaigning on behalf of workers back then.

She's not campaigning for workers now, either. She's campaigning on behalf of lobbyists whose broken business models are being threatened by Uber and their ilk.

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Post by brc »

Arainach wrote: post #13
brc wrote: post #7

The reason airbnb and uber exist is because the prior business models are broken with regards to a big enough portion of their potential customers. A conversation with the average taxi driver will reveal the job is no ticket to the high life or consistent pay. The way forward is to get rid of the concept of 'benefits' packages and just let people work for a gross pay and let themselves choose their own benefits from…

Without the bargaining power of large groups of employees, how will reasonable costs and levels of service be maintained? It's well established that people on their own without insurance get charged much higher rates than people with insurance get charged for the same procedures at the same hospitals. Presumably the same effects apply to individuals trying to obtain a price for insurance versus an employer bargaining…

Seems to work ok in many places around the world and in different products within the us. You don't need 'group buying' for auto or home insurance, or car or home purchases.

In fact group buying probably hinders the ability to get the right product/person match.

Of all the problems to solve, it seems pretty easy. Even if that just means groupon for benefits.

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Post by donarb »

Natsu wrote: post #6

Hillary sat on the board of Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1992 and there aren't many places that exploit their workers much more than they do. It would have been nice if she had done some campaigning on behalf of workers back then.

That was back when Sam Walton was alive and pushing Buy American. Walmart went to shit after he died.

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Post by rtpg »

brc wrote: post #7

The reason airbnb and uber exist is because the prior business models are broken with regards to a big enough portion of their potential customers. A conversation with the average taxi driver will reveal the job is no ticket to the high life or consistent pay. The way forward is to get rid of the concept of 'benefits' packages and just let people work for a gross pay and let themselves choose their own benefits from…

You do realize we had a time before unions and common benefits right? What makes this time any different?

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Post by [deleted] »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #14
Natsu wrote: post #6

Hillary sat on the board of Wal-Mart from 1986 to 1992 and there aren't many places that exploit their workers much more than they do. It would have been nice if she had done some campaigning on behalf of workers back then.

She's not campaigning for workers now, either. She's campaigning on behalf of lobbyists whose broken business models are being threatened by Uber and their ilk.

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Post by gedy »

Arainach wrote: post #13
brc wrote: post #7

The reason airbnb and uber exist is because the prior business models are broken with regards to a big enough portion of their potential customers. A conversation with the average taxi driver will reveal the job is no ticket to the high life or consistent pay. The way forward is to get rid of the concept of 'benefits' packages and just let people work for a gross pay and let themselves choose their own benefits from…

Without the bargaining power of large groups of employees, how will reasonable costs and levels of service be maintained? It's well established that people on their own without insurance get charged much higher rates than people with insurance get charged for the same procedures at the same hospitals. Presumably the same effects apply to individuals trying to obtain a price for insurance versus an employer bargaining…

My group policy cost more (~60%) working at a corporation than my paying for it on my own - because they are averaging costs for everyone.

Re: Hillary Clinton Plans to Campaign Against Uber’s Contractor Economy

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Post by meric »

CharityWatch says even a “minimally efficient” foundation spends 60 percent of its budget on programs. In the years 2009-2012, the Clinton Foundation devoted just 15 percent to charitable grants, according to an analysis of IRS filings by The Federalist. That fell to 10 percent in 2013. Forty-five percent was spent on salaries, perks and travel for staff.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/05/31/clinton...

Hiliary Clinton can be bought and is being bought through donations to her foundation.

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