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Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

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post #17

> This question does not appear to be about programming within the scope defined in the help center. After reading through the help center info linked, it seems like this question would fit all the requirements in its current form. It's hard to look at past versions since the page doesn't exist on SO anymore, but how was the question originally stated?

the only difference between the current version and the original was that the original had the title "Interesting uses of sun.misc.Unsafe"

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

#22
This question is basically the textbook example of "too broad" – is it any surprise that it was deleted?

Perhaps you can take issue with the fact that StackOverflow doesn't allow overly broad questions, but personally I find it helpful. When I find something on StackOverflow (or more commonly Cross Validated), it's almost always someone solving or pointing to a way to solve a problem very similar to what I encountered. Allowing extremely broad questions would diminish the likelihood that these results can be easily accessed.

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

#23

IMO, one thing that'd help would be requiring more close/delete votes for questions with lots of upvotes (and lots of heavily upvoted answers) like this one had. That said, the question - "Of course the Unsafe class is undocumented, but how can I use it in a real world scenario" - is pretty much the definition of "too broad". That said, I voted to undelete and reopen, which appears to have succeeded.

Questions with many upvotes do require more deletion votes. E.g. this question needed 10 votes, rather than the usual 3.

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

#24
post #13

That is one of the main reasons to own your own data and not to trust some company with it. Just post it on your own blog and link to it instead.

If you have a solution, this is the best way to do it. You won't get the reputation points for it but when somebody is Googling for that problem, they will be happy you stuck it on your blog. That is the goal, isn't it? To help people?

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

#25
I find myself from time to time having questions that I know would be immediately closed at SO by hyperactive mods, though probably many users, potential googlers etc. would like to find the answer to the same question.

What is a good place to pose such questions? I don't believe Ask HN is one, since time-on-frontpage is very short, and if thread does not get upvotes quickly, it goes into oblivion, and also, while too broad for SO, they're probably too specific for HN :)

Any recommendations?

Maybe there's a business case for a portal "TooBroadForStack.com" or sth like that ;)

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

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post #21
post #17

> This question does not appear to be about programming within the scope defined in the help center. After reading through the help center info linked, it seems like this question would fit all the requirements in its current form. It's hard to look at past versions since the page doesn't exist on SO anymore, but how was the question originally stated?

the only difference between the current version and the original was that the original had the title "Interesting uses of sun.misc.Unsafe"

I'd agree that the original question is not very SO-like IMO, but phrasing aside, the content is still valuable. Still don't think deleting was the correct option.

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

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I'm on my second account on SO. A few years back I was fed up with the "SO police" and asked Jeff Atwood to close the account for me. I've been back for almost 2 years now but I'm not an active member by any means.

Having said that, SO has been nothing short of amazing when you look at the vast amounts of information it provides. However, I never really had a good experience receiving responses on anything I've ever asked. I'd typically get a comment or two but answers are rare.

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

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post #2

Outside of "how do I do X in JQuery again?", most times google directs me to StackOverflow it is to a question that got closed for some reason or other. I just can assume there are people for which it works better that way, but for me StackOverflow is useless in most cases where I'd hope it could help me. (EDIT: to add, the case mentioned by jrcii of "question is closed, but has a useful answer" also happens)

I hear this regularly, and I'm really curious what kinds of things you're searching. I practically never experience this.

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

#29
As I read this, I was thinking, "man, it would be great if StackOverflow could serve as sort of a wiki platform so information like this has a place to live even though it doesn't meet SO's 'question and answer' criteria."

Of course, it does [1] (as an aside, read the comments on the answer there, most of them are people bitching that they can't earn rep on community wiki posts). The first link in the answer there points to an old blog post about "The Future Of Community Wiki" [2], which I highly recommend to anyone interested in this controversy as food for thought.

I see a lot of parallels between this problem and the problem that Reddit is having right now. It all stems from the question of how much these sites should be considered "communities." To what extent is StackOverflow really a "place"? Do fun, off-topic or poorly-formatted questions really ruin the reputation and mission of StackOverflow if they are but a subset of pages that happen to be hosted side-by-side with other pages that include content that can be found with a search and that many people will find invaluable?

[1] http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/11740/what-are-commu...

[2] https://blog.stackexchange.com/2011/08/the-future-of-communi...

Re: StackOverflow modding itself out of existence

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post #2

Outside of "how do I do X in JQuery again?", most times google directs me to StackOverflow it is to a question that got closed for some reason or other. I just can assume there are people for which it works better that way, but for me StackOverflow is useless in most cases where I'd hope it could help me. (EDIT: to add, the case mentioned by jrcii of "question is closed, but has a useful answer" also happens)

When Google lands me there, about 80-90% of the time a SO post contains the answer I was looking for, it has tons of votes, yet is closed as being off-topic or too broad. Useful yet puzzling.
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