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Re: I, Racist

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Post by mplscoder »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #10
mplscoder wrote: post #9

If whites were 1) running the country and 2) racist then the immigration policies of this country would have kept the USA as a white majority country. Instead, white people are becoming a minority in the USA and European countries. "As Of Today, California No Longer Has A White Majority" http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/07/01/2238421/cali...

Sure, but that's couched in racist ideology: you are black (or non-white) if you have any fraction of not-white blood. As the great melting pot processes along, its inevitable that 'pure white' folks will disappear. And that's a problem, why?

You are just arbitrarily defining whites to mean nonsense and accusing me of being a racist which I am not, I am a Catholic and I believe racism is illogical, but I still get annoyed reading about how all us whites are supposedly racist or secretly racist, and couch everything in our secret racist ideology.

I didn't say it was a problem for a country to be non-white. I said that it simply proves that white racists are not running everything, which it does. The WASP elites are not running everything anymore - its not the 1920s.

Re: I, Racist

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Post by kjdal2001 »

_blrj wrote: post #17
mister_m wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Feel free to explain why please.

What is there to explain? The sun shines, water flows, and racists make prejudicial statements.

He is asking what about the article is racist, not why racism exists.

Re: I, Racist

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Post by jgroszko »

scrumper wrote: post #3

Point is well argued and carries a lot of weight. It's uncomfortable reading. As a white person coming from the UK to the US, I noticed a stark contrast in black participation in society between the two countries. While not claiming Britain is perfect, my metropolitan southern experience included a lot of black people on an equal or senior footing on various axes of professional, financial, social, etc. That experien…

I've noticed this in a few BBC shows vs. American shows. In a British TV show there will be characters that just happen to be black, but in an American show it's going to get talked about eventually. Admittedly they aren't the same genres, but the shows that immediately come to mind for me like this are Sherlock and Dr. Who vs. say 30 Rock or Community.

Re: I, Racist

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Post by VeejayRampay »

GoldenHomer wrote: post #24

I can understand his anger and frustration, but come on. http://www.jamesmaystock.com/essays/images/InterracialMurder... Source of image: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/...

What about the fact that there is a system of ghetto-ization that ensures that a huge chunk of the black population is marginalized and ostracized? What about the fact that the worst areas (where said crimes are committed) of the densely populated urban swaths are disproportionately inhabited by African-Americans?

What about institutionalized educational and police racism? What about the presence of drugs and the lack of social workers cause God forbid rich people pay higher taxes for the well-being of others?

What about the absence of fathers leaving innocent children to grow up without good role models because daddy is in jail for an egregiously long "drug offense" sentence (i.e. toking on a blunt)?

That stuff is systemic, showing out-of-context bar charts from the FBI doesn't make it right.

Re: I, Racist

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Post by peterhadlaw »

I'm so sick and tired of the race card. My parents are immigrants. They didn't have the language privelage that [non-white] natives have. It's such a sorry excuse blaming your failure on others. There will always be inequality in the world. Somehow against the odds my parents worked their asses off and put our family in a favorable position. It took working two jobs, going to school for 8 years but somehow they did it. I can't stand hearing racial this or that. But to appease the racists out there, Morgan Freeman has many times been asked if it's impossible to be successful as a black person, to which his response was 'look at where I am now, that is evidence that you can be successful" [paraphrased]. You have to want it, not whine about something else.

Re: I, Racist

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Post by happyscrappy »

VeejayRampay wrote: post #26
GoldenHomer wrote: post #24

I can understand his anger and frustration, but come on. http://www.jamesmaystock.com/essays/images/InterracialMurder... Source of image: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/...

What about the fact that there is a system of ghetto-ization that ensures that a huge chunk of the black population is marginalized and ostracized? What about the fact that the worst areas (where said crimes are committed) of the densely populated urban swaths are disproportionately inhabited by African-Americans? What about institutionalized educational and police racism? What about the presence of drugs and the lac…

Inner cities — cities often overwhelmingly run by minorities — have different standards than those elsewhere, we can then ask why and dig deeper to the root of the problem. We can ask cultural questions and compare the percentage of intact nuclear families across races. We can do surveys on parental attitudes about the importance of education or examine voting patterns. We can ask if it is possible for a city like Detroit — run for decades by progressives, many of them minorities — to be the “victim” of “white privilege.” Did white privilege clouds from Orange County, Calif. make their way east until they dumped fiscal malfeasance and out-of-wedlock births on Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia?

Re: I, Racist

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Post by dragonwriter »

mplscoder wrote: post #19
dragonwriter wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If whites were 1) running the country and 2) racist then the immigration policies of this country would have kept the USA as a white majority country. Why? Why would the whites holding the majority of the power oppose having greater non-white subject populations as long as they were still subject? (One might argue that this would be short-sighted, on the assumption that minority dominance isn't indefinitely sustain…

If whites are running everything, what policy exists for them to maintain power? Trying to keep America white by immigration? No Media favoring white people? No (they called the hispanic George Zimmerman white to further their 'white people are all rascist' narrative') Passing laws that favor the majority white religion (Christianity)? No

> If whites are running everything, what policy exists for them to maintain power?

That's a whole different argument than the one you made upthread; if that's what you wanted to argue, why didn't you argue that first, instead of what you did (which you apparently aren't interested in defending.)

Note that the comment you are responding to doesn't argue that whites are running everything, it argues that your previously-stated basis for rejecting that is unsound.

> Trying to keep America white by immigration?

By restricting immigration, and not allowing the overall quotas to align with where the people otherwise qualified and interested in coming are located? Certainly.

By adopting a variety of non-immigrant foreign labor schemes, certainly also.

> Media favoring white people? No (they called the hispanic George Zimmerman white to further their 'white people are all rascist' narrative')

Zimmerman is of white race and Hispanic ethnicity.

> Passing laws that favor the majority white religion (Christianity)?

Whites in the US are less likely to be Christian than Blacks.

(And given your comments on Zimmerman, which seems to indicate that you reject the normal definition of race and see Hispanics as inherently non-white, well, Hispanics are also far more likely to be Christian than Whites in general -- and this is even more true, obviously, Hispanics vs. non-Hispanic Whites.)

Overall, Whites aren't any more Christian than the population at large, so laws favoring Christianity as such don't really relatively favor Whites.

Re: I, Racist

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Post by slackstation »

I am black and I'm with him on this but, he loses me at this quote:

"Racism is our acceptance of an all white Lord of the Rings cast because of “historical accuracy,” ignoring the fact that this is a world with an entirely fictionalized history."

What does Lord of The Rings written by a white author in a fantasy setting of his own imagination have to do with racism? Furthermore, how is this racist? Shoehorning a character into the story inauthentically without knowledge of that culture would be just as bad if not worse. It's like Hollywood trying to put "Hacker" characters into their storylines without having any idea of what programmers actually do or actually act.

The author makes so many more powerful arguments in piece, this small point just sticks as a thorn in my side. In the broad scope of things, an 11 year child playing with a toy gun being shot to death within seconds of being seen by the police (in a state with open carry laws, no less) is a much more clear, poignant and serious issue. Harping that there aren't black people in Lord of The Rings just waters down the argument and takes credence away from the other more worthy points.

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