Live data from Hacker News

JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

cube-drone.com

11–20 of 100 posts

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#11

One wonders how we get out of this mess. You'd have thought that Microsoft/Google/Apple/whomever would have at least tried to include a better alternative language in their browser by now. What stops them besides inertia?

I think you missed Dart. In any case, everyone agrees at this point that compiling arbitrary languages to Javascript or a Javascript-derived compile target is the way forward. Write ClojureScript.

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#12
"Let's put a weak language on a billion screens and see what happens." The browser is Arrakis, and JS devs are the Fremen, hardened and shaped by an environment that is just barely survivable. Let us hope our own Golden Path is less painful than in Dune.

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#13
I learned a while ago that it doesn't matter how broken something is if everyone is using it.

Humans are incredibly resourceful, if not also short-sighted.

Look at PHP, look at Javascript, look at Wordpress, look at email, look at the original jQuery etc...

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#14
I'm not sure how to interpret the last part...

"Where I am from, the point of digging is not freedom from digging."

Is it a statement that the point of digging is to reach further and learn more (positive)? Is it a statement more along the lines of "We dig because we must dig to survive." (negative)? Or possibly that digging is simply a way of life (negative)?

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#15
post #7

"Prototypal inheritance is pants-on-head stupid." Well, he's almost merely wrong, if he were to take out the "prototypal" part.

Prototypal inheritance works well, if you understand it. It's only "wrong" if you're of the Java/C++ OOP religion.

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#16

I learned a while ago that it doesn't matter how broken something is if everyone is using it. Humans are incredibly resourceful, if not also short-sighted. Look at PHP, look at Javascript, look at Wordpress, look at email, look at the original jQuery etc...

Email is one of the least broken communication protocols we have. Which says something.

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#17

I learned a while ago that it doesn't matter how broken something is if everyone is using it. Humans are incredibly resourceful, if not also short-sighted. Look at PHP, look at Javascript, look at Wordpress, look at email, look at the original jQuery etc...

Email is one of the least broken communication protocols we have. Which says something.

Email it's the only free, distributed protocol we have at a large scale. I love that.

But email is broken in many ways and adding basic requirements like encryption is still not possible on a large scale do to lock-in.

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#18

I learned a while ago that it doesn't matter how broken something is if everyone is using it. Humans are incredibly resourceful, if not also short-sighted. Look at PHP, look at Javascript, look at Wordpress, look at email, look at the original jQuery etc...

Universities try to convey this. My final year was more about project management, technology was one variable and nothing else (one of few values of UML is that it tries to be agnostic, even though hyper c++/OOP centric). And thanks to Sir Turing and his friends, you know you can always solve the problem with whatever language/system you have.

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#19
post #7

"Prototypal inheritance is pants-on-head stupid." Well, he's almost merely wrong, if he were to take out the "prototypal" part.

Prototypal inheritance works well, if you understand it. It's only "wrong" if you're of the Java/C++ OOP religion.

[deleted]

Re: JavaScript developers are incredible at problem solving, unfortunately

#20
post #7

"Prototypal inheritance is pants-on-head stupid." Well, he's almost merely wrong, if he were to take out the "prototypal" part.

Prototypal inheritance works well, if you understand it. It's only "wrong" if you're of the Java/C++ OOP religion.

> if you understand it

Someday we'll figure out that this is the problem with most features.

Post reply on HN