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Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by ldubinets » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 2:55 AM UTC

Their homepage says "Norse Tracks over 200,000 tor exit nodes". Tor metrics [1] says there exist 1,000 ish Tor exit nodes. So is Norse's statement a blatant lie?

[1] https://metrics.torproject.org/relayflags.html

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by AdieuToLogic » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 3:29 AM UTC

curiousjorge wrote: post #40

britknight wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shall we play a game?

How about global thermonuclear war?

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by fineman » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 3:56 AM UTC

bithead wrote: post #37

d1str0 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honeypots

That would, in my view, mean I shouldn't take the map as accurate.

Correct. But you could do a pretty good idea with some honeypots (customers) and a few agreements with ISPs to see where similar packets go.

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by ironchef » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 4:19 AM UTC

libraryatnight wrote: post #7

wnevets wrote: post #2

what is norse, and why does it hate st. louis?

Seems like China hates St Louis?

That's because of all the defense / Intel work in St. Louis (Scott afb etc). And to the other commenter talking about Kirksville, that's where the JSS is.

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by finnjohnsen2 » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 8:11 AM UTC

What about that spot mid Russia which just pulsates? attacking itself?

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by secfirstmd » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 9:42 AM UTC

meowface wrote: post #35

tomphoolery wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Norse Map used to have a little "about" section that explained how the map is a general aggregation of data and designed to show at a very high level what is going on, but doesn't provide any deep insight into each attack. The famous disclaimer "for entertainment purposes only" comes to mind, but in reality I think the Norse Map is just a really neat and sort-of functional advertisement for the capabilities of No…

Norse is generally considered a joke by all the professionals I know in the infosec and threat intelligence industries, and not just for their silly map. Even moreso after their recent Iran report, done in conjunction with the political thinktank American Enterprise Institute. No bias there at all.

Agree, though I think the value in this is purely demonstrative to non-tech people, just to try to emphasise specific concepts.

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by kjs3 » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 12:51 PM UTC

daveloyall wrote: post #12

If Norse wanted to make this data useful, they'd present it as a CSV, too. How else could I determine if one entity owns all the St. Louis targets??? :)

They actually sell that sort of data feed. The map is an ad.

Re: Norse Attack Map

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 12:51 PM UTC

daveloyall wrote: post #12

If Norse wanted to make this data useful, they'd present it as a CSV, too. How else could I determine if one entity owns all the St. Louis targets??? :)

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