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Did you buy that latte 2 hours ago? Think about leaving the coffee shop

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Re: Did you buy that latte 2 hours ago? Think about leaving the coffee shop

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I feel guilt about this all the time. I work remotely, in the UK but on US Eastern time to synch with my team. Fortunately this means I can go to cafes after the lunch rush, but make sure I buy enough food and drink to not be a freeloader, tip well, and if it's busy - move on. Working from home is what I'm going back to anyway, it's just nice to get out of the house.

Re: Did you buy that latte 2 hours ago? Think about leaving the coffee shop

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This is a subset of a larger civic issue with increasing pressure on private spaces as public spaces shrink, http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/87169002-d87a-11e4-ba53-00144...

"People like public space. Just as they like to work in a coffee shop on a laptop surrounded by others, they want to hang out with friends, to people-watch, flirt, take part in the rituals of public life.

In the suburbs, the 20th-century answer to the need for “public” space was the mall. The first were in the US in the 1950s, conceived as public places with kindergartens, medical centres and community facilities alongside the shops. Within a few years, only the shopping was left.

Malls have come a long way since. “Malls without walls”, whole shopping districts, resemble parts of the city, with real streets and brick and stone façades, and transpire to be privately owned. Liverpool One is an example. Cash-strapped municipalities cannot compete and people throng to these places. Users, once citizens, are rebranded as consumers."

From http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/7/stop-treating-c...

"The consumer-citizen pops up all over the place, like a cardboard stand-in for democratic citizens who have no other political concerns beyond self-interested consumption .. the public is hung out to dry with effectively no defense or recourse since our political rights have evaporated into market choices."

Re: Did you buy that latte 2 hours ago? Think about leaving the coffee shop

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This seems like a UX/UI failure on the part of the coffee shop if he has to intervene in the customers' experience. The coffee shops I go to do a good job of making it clear what kind of customers they want by virtue of the experience you have there. This weekend I encountered the first coffee shop I can remember visiting that lacked wifi. I looked around and saw nothing but groups of people in conversation. Other shops I'm a regular at never make it awkward for me to sit there...whether with just a cup of coffee or a steady stream of drinks. If there's an outcome you want with your space, there's probably a good way to configure it so that you meet your end goal.

Re: Did you buy that latte 2 hours ago? Think about leaving the coffee shop

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post #5

I feel guilt about this all the time . I work remotely, in the UK but on US Eastern time to synch with my team. Fortunately this means I can go to cafes after the lunch rush, but make sure I buy enough food and drink to not be a freeloader, tip well, and if it's busy - move on. Working from home is what I'm going back to anyway, it's just nice to get out of the house.

It's way easier if the cafe also sells food. Me and 2 others basically built a company some years back out of a cafe in Sacramento, but we always bought lots of coffee and bought our lunch there as well. We all shared 1 table too so the space was used well, and of course talked to the owner who had no problem.

Here's a great way to discourage campers: no outlets, not even 1.

Re: Did you buy that latte 2 hours ago? Think about leaving the coffee shop

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post #7

This seems like a UX/UI failure on the part of the coffee shop if he has to intervene in the customers' experience. The coffee shops I go to do a good job of making it clear what kind of customers they want by virtue of the experience you have there. This weekend I encountered the first coffee shop I can remember visiting that lacked wifi. I looked around and saw nothing but groups of people in conversation. Other sh…

>UX/UI failure on the part of the coffee shop

I know this is HN, but is it necessary to shoehorn computer references into situations where it's not needed?

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