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Facebook’s Piracy Problem

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Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#41
post #16

But is it Facebook or the magazine that ripped and modified the video the one at fault? Issue a DMCA to Facebook and sue the magazine for copyright infringement. And next time post it yourself.

The problem with posting it yourself, is unless you've spent ages cultivating a fb page with heaps of followers, you won't get any traction or views at all. And posting it yourself won't stop a larger fb page taking it.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#42
post #16

But is it Facebook or the magazine that ripped and modified the video the one at fault? Issue a DMCA to Facebook and sue the magazine for copyright infringement. And next time post it yourself.

The problem with posting it yourself, is unless you've spent ages cultivating a fb page with heaps of followers, you won't get any traction or views at all. And posting it yourself won't stop a larger fb page taking it.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#43
post #34

It seems like it would be easy for Facebook to support takedowns since it could remove the video from feeds.

Takedowns suck. Content creators don't want that and people driving traffic to their page don't want that. The crucial thing about YouTube and ContentID is that you can leave the videos alone but choose to monetize (take all ad revenue) from a re-uploaded video instead of just showing a black box and a takedown notice. It works and it is seamless on YouTube but I don't know if Facebook has built anything similar. Mor…

"Takedowns suck."

No, stealing (yes, stealing) people's work sucks. Unjustified takedown requests do suck (and what makes them suck so much is platforms' craven response to frivolous requests). But we're talking about real, willful infringement here.

"Content creators don't want that"

You probably shouldn't try to speak for all of us, because you are wrong.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#44
post #17

Why can't YouTube users just send a DMCA takedown notice to Facebook? If a video makes someone a decent amount of money, then just sue for damages as well. I'm not sure I understand what the problem is.

They probably don't have anyone on staff whose responsibility is to do that but it seems it would be in their best interest to create a department that defends their top contributors with DMCA takedown notices.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#45
post #14

Ironically, at the end of the tattoo video that was pirated, Destin Sandlin, the host, is seen wearing [a shirt]( http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Going-Science-T-Shirt-Scientists... ) that is a blatant rip off of an Randall Munroe's (XKCD) [shirt]( http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/try-science ).

That always made me wonder, the people who sell shirts with logos/pop references shirts in mall booths, do they pay the artist a license fee to sell them?

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#46

This is absolutely rampant in the blackhat marketing world, (where I used to dabble, but still stay up on mostly out of curiosity). The model goes like this: Watch a few different pages and try to identify something that's bubbling up - that can be different viral facebook pages, reddit, whatever... there are a few different ways, but basically you constantly ping and scrape and try to identify stuff that's going vir…

If there are a few simple things to beat a vast majority of content theft, I feel like you should author a blog post instead of keeping it private to an email conversation.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#47
post #14

Ironically, at the end of the tattoo video that was pirated, Destin Sandlin, the host, is seen wearing [a shirt]( http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Going-Science-T-Shirt-Scientists... ) that is a blatant rip off of an Randall Munroe's (XKCD) [shirt]( http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/try-science ).

In case anyone hasn't seen Destin's videos (smarter every day), I'd like to mention that he's an incredibly interesting and engaging person who puts out really high quality content.

If you're like me, and think of the pieces of shit that run the RIAA when you hear about piracy complaints... it's worth watching Destin and his videos to see a much more sympathetic actor.

(Also, his big beef seems to be facebook's incentives to make money off those videos w/o giving him some... he's not talking about torrents specifically)

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#48
post #46

This is absolutely rampant in the blackhat marketing world, (where I used to dabble, but still stay up on mostly out of curiosity). The model goes like this: Watch a few different pages and try to identify something that's bubbling up - that can be different viral facebook pages, reddit, whatever... there are a few different ways, but basically you constantly ping and scrape and try to identify stuff that's going vir…

If there are a few simple things to beat a vast majority of content theft, I feel like you should author a blog post instead of keeping it private to an email conversation.

EDIT: on second thought, I'm not so sure telling spammers exactly how you're policing them isn't always the best thing to do. Emailing me is best, and if I think it's appropriate I'll publish.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#49
post #45
post #14

Ironically, at the end of the tattoo video that was pirated, Destin Sandlin, the host, is seen wearing [a shirt]( http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Going-Science-T-Shirt-Scientists... ) that is a blatant rip off of an Randall Munroe's (XKCD) [shirt]( http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/try-science ).

That always made me wonder, the people who sell shirts with logos/pop references shirts in mall booths, do they pay the artist a license fee to sell them?

NOPE

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

#50
post #45
post #14

Ironically, at the end of the tattoo video that was pirated, Destin Sandlin, the host, is seen wearing [a shirt]( http://www.amazon.com/Stand-Going-Science-T-Shirt-Scientists... ) that is a blatant rip off of an Randall Munroe's (XKCD) [shirt]( http://store-xkcd-com.myshopify.com/products/try-science ).

That always made me wonder, the people who sell shirts with logos/pop references shirts in mall booths, do they pay the artist a license fee to sell them?

The people who sell the shirts? No.

The people who manufacture the shirts? Yes, at least in theory.

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