Facebook’s Piracy Problem

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Post by wesd » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 7:46 PM UTC

Facebook’s Piracy Problem
slate.com

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Post by 001sky » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:12 PM UTC

This title seems (a bit) like blaming the stock exchange for insider trading.

Re: Facebook’s Piracy Problem

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Post by mosquito242 » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:12 PM UTC

This is super interesting - it seems like facebook's more likely to get away with it too because the people being ripped off are smaller independent YouTube Channels.

It seems like YouTube's main incentive to build out copyright infringement tools was all of the record labels that had songs being uploaded and re-uploaded on the platform.

I can see YouTube getting really aggressive in fighting FB on this legally, because they need to defend their own content providers before they move to Facebook (or start uploading to both facebook/youtube).

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Post by ericras » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:12 PM UTC

Like usual, currently Facebook doesn't think they have much of a "problem" at all. It only becomes a problem if someone calls them out on it - probably in a court.

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Post by Mithaldu » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:13 PM UTC

It sounds to me like part of the problem is that the people making popular videos don't share them on facebook themselves, which results in the modern internet native's primary reaction to media being unavailable in their preferred venue and at their preferred comfortability level: Piracy.

Sure, you can fight back by appealing to the public about facebook's evility, or by spending lots of resources in legal action. Or you can roll with the punches and figure out the myriad ways in which even the currently broken facebook system can work for you.

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Post by kevando » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:15 PM UTC

Didn't youtube start the same way?

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Post by teraflop » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:16 PM UTC

kevando wrote: post #6

Didn't youtube start the same way?

The article touches on that:

> Maybe this is just a stage of development for online video platforms: grow first, then cover your legal bases. Some might even see poetic justice in the potential disruption of YouTube’s business by an upstart that plays a little faster and looser when it comes to copyright enforcement.

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Post by belorn » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:17 PM UTC

001sky wrote: post #2

This title seems (a bit) like blaming the stock exchange for insider trading.

Do the stock exchange earn money on insider trading? If not then thats a key difference when it comes to incentives and encouraging such activities.

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Post by larrys » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:19 PM UTC

kevando wrote: post #6

Didn't youtube start the same way?

Sure but from my understanding of the article youtube isn't really the aggrieved party it's the creators that are.

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Post by Jare » Wed, Jul 08, 2015, 9:19 PM UTC

Mithaldu wrote: post #5

It sounds to me like part of the problem is that the people making popular videos don't share them on facebook themselves, which results in the modern internet native's primary reaction to media being unavailable in their preferred venue and at their preferred comfortability level: Piracy. Sure, you can fight back by appealing to the public about facebook's evility, or by spending lots of resources in legal action. O…

How would those videos monetize for the author when posted on Facebook? The article says Facebook's ad revenue sharing is in the works but not quite there yet .