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Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

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Re: Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if his statement was not intended as a moral imperative, but as practical advice? Perhaps he is saying, "The fact of the matter is that we're required to retain and release lots of information. If you don't want that information being passed around, you probably shouldn't give it to us. Sorry, we do the best we can under the circumstances." "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you sho…

Who's requiring them to retain anything? For 180 days? And retaining for policing/security reasons doesn't mean you should use the data for other privacy-invading targeting.

Patriot Act compliance

see the Yahoo leak from cryptomeme http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/yahoo-spy.pdf

Re: Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

#114

I'd like to hear Erich Schmidt's half of the story. This is typical Internet drama. We have seen it a million times. I give the guy the benefit of doubt since this wouldn't be the first occasion some journalist taken a sentence out of context.

While you're right that vilifying Schmidt based on this statement is a little ridiculous, I'd say that one would still be wise to take it as a warning. Chances are that Google not only has your search history, but your email history, many of your documents information about your travel plans, and more. All it would take is for one unscrupulous executive to abuse his position and ruin your life. Chances are, no matter how innocent you are, you have something to hide. Google doesn't have to morally evil to justify our being wary of it.

Re: Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

#115
post #41

"If you have something to hide, maybe you shouldn't be doing it" is valid not only in the context of net privacy but much more so as a general rule.

Democracy depends on hidden votes and freedom of speech depends on anonymity. Your statement therefore suggests you are opposed to both democracy and freedom of speech.

While I don't like the tone of this post, the point about secret ballots is insightful and deserves consideration.

Re: Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

#116
post #95

I'd like to hear Erich Schmidt's half of the story. This is typical Internet drama. We have seen it a million times. I give the guy the benefit of doubt since this wouldn't be the first occasion some journalist taken a sentence out of context.

There is no other half. It's a quote taken completely out of context and blown out of proportion with absolutely moronic commentary. I can't believe this is the kind of thing that makes it to the front page of HN, much less to the #1 spot :( But the bigger news may be that Schmidt has actually admitted there are cases where the search giant is forced to release your personal data. Oh, you mean Google follows US laws?…

Try hackerhackernews.com. It's the same site, but uses some Bayesian modeling to filter out the TechCrunch-like internet drama.

Re: Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

#119
post #27

The register suggests it is possible to avoid Google products, but the web is literally infested with Google ads and that is a tracking mechanism.

Adblock, FTW.

Better disable javascript, if you are avoiding google, as well

Re: Eric Schmidt: "If you have something [to hide], maybe you shouldn't be doing it"

#120

My corollary: if you have something to hide, and doing it is a good or neutral thing, then you have identified a bug in society. You probably ought to fix that.

If you have something to hide, do so via technical solutions (e.g. tor), not by hoping some other entity will do it for you on their own accord. They've got their own problems to deal with.
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