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Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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Re: Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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Not one single mention of RoundUp or any of the other toxic chemicals farmers spray on crops (especially wheat) right before/during harvest to kill them and dry them out faster. Like the article says, we as a species have eaten wheat for thousands of years with little problem. Why now? The correlation between gluten intolerance and the rise of late-crop RoundUp raises some big questions.

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“If eating wheat was so bad for us, it’s hard to imagine that populations that ate it would have tolerated it for 10,000 years,” Sarah A. Tishkoff, a geneticist at the University of Pennsylvania who studies lactase persistence, told me.

Sarah, turn on your brain. What about Game Theory? What if wheat is addictive and mankind did not enslave Wheat but wheat (and possible other crops) "enslaved" mankind?

There is evidence that wheat may not be as healthy for you as you think. Also, the wheat from 60 years ago has very little to do with our current wheat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_exorphin

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/2012/04/wheat-is-an-opiate/

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/category/toxins-and- toxicity/wheat-grains/

http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2010/09/wheat-and-obesity-more-...

Re: Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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“If eating wheat was so bad for us, it’s hard to imagine that populations that ate it would have tolerated it for 10,000 years,” Sarah A. Tishkoff, a geneticist at the University of Pennsylvania who studies lactase persistence, told me. Sarah, turn on your brain. What about Game Theory? What if wheat is addictive and mankind did not enslave Wheat but wheat (and possible other crops) "enslaved" mankind? There is evide…

The reason we're eating wheat even though we're not made for it is because we could support larger populations on that versus hunting and gathering. Farming societies eventually won, even though hunters and gatherers were more healthy, because farming societies have a food surplus (which it can store), and can then afford to wage war and expand. If you look at skeletons from before and after farming, you see that hunter and gatherers were taller, had bigger brains than we have today, and were overall healthier.

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“If eating wheat was so bad for us, it’s hard to imagine that populations that ate it would have tolerated it for 10,000 years,” Sarah A. Tishkoff, a geneticist at the University of Pennsylvania who studies lactase persistence, told me. Sarah, turn on your brain. What about Game Theory? What if wheat is addictive and mankind did not enslave Wheat but wheat (and possible other crops) "enslaved" mankind? There is evide…

I read the WheatBelly book, which you cite. That is one of the most heavily cited book I've read about health. It was a bit extreme in how aggressive that book cited. I'd strongly encourage people to get the book from your local library and give it a read. (edited to add a thought) Wheat isn't a problem, even spoken of within the book. It's unsprouted wheat, which is currently the norm. We've sprouted wheat for most of human's civilization, minus the last 40 or so years.

Re: Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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Not one single mention of RoundUp or any of the other toxic chemicals farmers spray on crops (especially wheat) right before/during harvest to kill them and dry them out faster. Like the article says, we as a species have eaten wheat for thousands of years with little problem. Why now? The correlation between gluten intolerance and the rise of late-crop RoundUp raises some big questions.

Um... The whole point here is that unscientific nonsense needs to be killed. And specifically that non-Celiac gluten sensitivity has no real evidence for it.

So your response is to trot out an equally unfounded (AFAIK) hippie-inspired pseudo-theory. Seriously?

Re: Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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Not one single mention of RoundUp or any of the other toxic chemicals farmers spray on crops (especially wheat) right before/during harvest to kill them and dry them out faster. Like the article says, we as a species have eaten wheat for thousands of years with little problem. Why now? The correlation between gluten intolerance and the rise of late-crop RoundUp raises some big questions.

> The correlation between gluten intolerance and the rise of late-crop RoundUp raises some big questions.

Does it? Does it really? Half the point of the article is that genuine gluten intolerance is not that common, for starters, so there probably isn't a simple causal relationship that "X = bad, X is on wheat, therefore wheat is bad for us now".

Secondly: Is wheat the only crop we spray RoundUp on? If not, why is it only causing issues with wheat?

Re: Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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“If eating wheat was so bad for us, it’s hard to imagine that populations that ate it would have tolerated it for 10,000 years,” Sarah A. Tishkoff, a geneticist at the University of Pennsylvania who studies lactase persistence, told me. Sarah, turn on your brain. What about Game Theory? What if wheat is addictive and mankind did not enslave Wheat but wheat (and possible other crops) "enslaved" mankind? There is evide…

> Are the gluten haters correct that modern wheat varietals contain more gluten than past cultivars, making them more toxic? Unlikely, according to recent analysis by Donald D. Kasarda, a scientist with the United States Department of Agriculture. He analyzed records of protein content in wheat harvests going back nearly a century. It hasn’t changed.

Re: Gluten intolerance may really be immune dysfunction

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Not one single mention of RoundUp or any of the other toxic chemicals farmers spray on crops (especially wheat) right before/during harvest to kill them and dry them out faster. Like the article says, we as a species have eaten wheat for thousands of years with little problem. Why now? The correlation between gluten intolerance and the rise of late-crop RoundUp raises some big questions.

Agreed! And the correlation between gluten intolerance and use of facebook is something that nobody is talking about. Yet when you examine the data, you find that there are more diagnoses and self-diagnoses of gluten intolerance during the time when facebook grew from a few thousand users to nearly a billion!

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