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Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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What's "the community"? There doesn't seem to be one community that is going to act in unison. Regarding point B, I am not sure that anyone said a replacement has to exactly copy reddit. Arguments aside, I agree with your final sentiment. Something new would be awesome. I'd like an anonymous Usenet/distributed-server style system that runs on port 80 - like a BitTorrent for discussions where anybody that can put up a…

Something like Aether? http://getaether.net/

Or, more relevant to this community:

https://github.com/nehbit/aether-public/

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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They certainly seem to have momentum, despite having trouble handling the traffic. It's a pity that as it stands it's still pretty much a copy though, an alternative to reddit doesn't have to be, and probably shouldn't be, a 1:1 copy.

If you're looking for something different yet similar, I run valME.io which has a very different business model. And because of the business model, it will have significantly less spam and other undesirable content. But the concept it's not for everyone.

very cool! this is the kinda thing I wanted to see.

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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Built http://www.thealetree.com a few years ago so not related to the current issue. But I'll turn the database on for a few days if people want to try it out. The source code is at https://github.com/rdwallis/TheAleTree The idea behind it was that the passionate minority on sites like reddit, hn etc tend to drive the discussion on issues because the less passionate majority isn't as inclined to upvote / downvote. So…

This is an interesting idea! Why isn't the database turned on?

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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Philosophically, I'd like to see more non-connected link aggregation sites built around specific communities. I.e., there's no reason /r/askhistorians can't be www.askhistorians.whatever and serve the same purpose. HN is a good example of this kind of community-specific site; IMO lobste.rs is an even better example, given that it maintains a more consistent focus.

Community-specific websites have all kinds of advantages over "just another subreddit", including the fact that the community can literally own its own site, and build moderation policies and tools appropriate to whatever it feels its norms are. It can also throw up whatever barriers it feels are appropriate to keep out marauding trolls. (I'm a big fan of Metafilter's $5 account fee, as an example.)

It ought to be relatively easy to automate the process of spinning up such a site on a generic VPS. I'm very tempted to build something along those lines with Ansible or something.

Of course, in practice, the "one big site" model has tons of advantages in terms of barrier to entry, network effects, costs, discovery, and so on. So I doubt the idea would ever gain any traction. But one can dream. :)

(edit: fix wording slightly)

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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I have been thinking it would be cool to have a Reddit replacement ran by a non profit, similar to Wikipedia. Does anyone here have experience running something like that? I understand non profits are very complex to run.

I thought about this for my project, but decided against it, primarily due to associated complexity. Although I hear there are other business types being created that might be more suitable for websites.

Personally, I don't think profits are bad. But I think being profit driven is. I also think a company can serve a public role and not have to be a non-profit to do it.

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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I have been working on one, it's not really ready for prime time yet. The idea is that it's a news aggregator that learns what you like, so it forms a probabilistic model of what it thinks your interests are and applies that model to the network of submitted content to decide what you see. Instead of subreddits the system forms subcommunities by showing users with similar interests similar lists of content. The main…

As a fellow builder, also with something not ready for prime time, I say: ship that shit. If you're going to strike, now's the time. Any reason it can't be live, end of the month?

> Otherwise it only supports links that have a lot of text Sounds good to me!

> using browser fingerprints instead

By all means experiment; but this has a few problems with it. Some people like (or need) multiple accounts, which would mean separate browsers at the least. Equally, it's trivial to spin up a VM with a browser. So, the users who need multiple usernames can't (or lack the technical understanding), and the ones you don't want having multiple can easily create hundreds.

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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I've been toying with making one since I realized Reddit has been devolving into a reactionary, hate filled site. I was thinking about having a gimmick of graph based commenting to prevent the "top post guides discussion" effect. Not sure at how feasible or user friendly that could be.

Someone should make a version of reddit where your upvote/downvote record is what shapes the ordering for you. There should be a global rank and an individual rank that is calculated for each user something like the netflix 5 star system. That way the hateful stuff won't appear unless you upvoted hateful stuff. Liberals and conservatives could both get the content they want going to the same politics forum. It should…

> Liberals and conservatives could both get the content they want going to the same politics forum.

Hey, that's my thought! And I thought I was being original. Also probably not the first to think that either.

The whole "shapes the ordering for you" idea isn't bad; I think maybe even is a good one, largely. But, the one thing I take issue with is customization, or being more mosaic. Movies and TV shows it totally makes sense for; but I think it's a little more nuanced with news sites given the broader scope of topics and such.

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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I'm working on the rebolder, a social news site for amplifying the best behavior and discussions humanity has to offer. It's something of a cross between reddit/craigslist/nyt; really I guess it's my vision for newspapers in the web era, because I'm crazy enough to think I know better.

The gist is: unwavering loyalty to users, voteable tags, "no" shills or bot armies, powerful search, various efforts to donate to charity, username obscurement, and lastly unwavering loyalty to users; which is important enough to mention twice.

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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I have been working on one, it's not really ready for prime time yet. The idea is that it's a news aggregator that learns what you like, so it forms a probabilistic model of what it thinks your interests are and applies that model to the network of submitted content to decide what you see. Instead of subreddits the system forms subcommunities by showing users with similar interests similar lists of content. The main…

As a fellow builder, also with something not ready for prime time, I say: ship that shit. If you're going to strike, now's the time. Any reason it can't be live, end of the month? > Otherwise it only supports links that have a lot of text Sounds good to me! > using browser fingerprints instead By all means experiment; but this has a few problems with it. Some people like (or need) multiple accounts, which would mean…

Thanks for the support, I can probably make it live by the end of the month I just thought that a lack of image and video support would limit its chances at survival.

The browser fingerprinting idea is a bit more involved. The idea is that everyone is anonymous and the types of people who you seem to like, based on factors like leaving your cursor over their comment for a while, are slowly deanonymized to you. The way browser fingerprinting would work in this scenario is that instead of storing usernames attached to models, we store a few different indicators (like browser fingerprints) and create probabilistic models relating these indicators to the aforementioned models. That way even if we have a completely new user we can create a new initial model for them based on what they might like. I have only just started working on this idea though, so I'm not sure how well this would work in practice and I'm not sure what other indicators I might use.

With this in mind I don't think there would be a reason to spin up VMs and create new 'accounts' because it would just limit your personal experience.

Re: Ask HN: Are you working on a Reddit replacement? What is it?

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Built http://www.thealetree.com a few years ago so not related to the current issue. But I'll turn the database on for a few days if people want to try it out. The source code is at https://github.com/rdwallis/TheAleTree The idea behind it was that the passionate minority on sites like reddit, hn etc tend to drive the discussion on issues because the less passionate majority isn't as inclined to upvote / downvote. So…

This is an interesting idea! Why isn't the database turned on?

It got a lot of spam. Not sure if that shows that it doesn't work or if it needs a certain threshold of users before it can work properly.

The database is on at the moment so you can try it out. I'll only turn it off if the spam comes back.

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