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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by unprepare »

stefantalpalaru wrote: post #512
jasonlotito wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can't /r/science keep on functioning Clearly the people best suited to answer this question do not think they will be able to do what they have been doing.

Clearly that can't be true. That subreddit is still valuable without AMAs. The people in charge just can't bring themselves to be honest with their users. Look at the re-opening announcement and spot the blatant lies and half-truths: > Today /r/science was briefly shut down, and in the interest of transparency we would like to address the reason for this occurrence. Following consequential changes in admin organizati…

dealing with rescheduling all future AMAs can suck up a lot of volunteer moderator time. Time that would otherwise have to be spent moderating the sub.

So yes, to do things effectively without half assing everything, i can see a reason to shut down the sub temporarily

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by tptacek »

dandanisaur wrote: post #414
tptacek wrote: post #336

Alex Ohanian's comments about this ridiculous tire fire, and the Reddit community's unhinged responses. Priceless . https://www.reddit.com/user/kn0thing

I've seen some of 'Alexis' comments and it really seems like he doesn't give a shit. 'Make something people want' amirite? what a joke.

Sorry, Alexis. A little buzzed last night.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by betenoire »

istvan__ wrote: post #555
DanBC wrote: post #405

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Adding the single word promote makes the post entirely an on-topic reply to what he said - white men are not discriminated against "because diversity"; and if they are the exact same legal recourse used by protected classes is open to them. But since you think I didn't answer their post: what do you think they were talking about? Do you think that "promotion" is somehow not part of "recruitment and selection"?

Promotion is not part of recruitment.

Of course it is. They are also known as career-advancement opportunities or whatever you want to call them. But they are most certainly part of recruitment, along with all the other possible benefits the company has to offer.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by fredkbloggs »

adaml_623 wrote: post #444
go1dfish wrote: post #137

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I've been saying that the Scarlet Letter Administration of Pao are "paper tigers swimming in a barrel of incompetence" But today's tone deafness astounds even me. They have no allies left. They also immediately destroyed the narrative that reddit just hates Pao because she's a woman. Victoria was one of the most popular and well respected admins ever. Even the tinfoil hats at /r/conspiracy trusted her not to manipula…

Your post seems quite accurate but I'd like to point out that one thing often mentioned about misogyny on the internet is that it's 'powerful' women that get the most hate. 'Powerful' women and authority figures get grief. And women in helper roles do not. So your statement is correct but perhaps people's attitudes to gender still influences their response to Pao. Food for thought

Pao gets hate because she's incompetent, vain, and an ass. Ballmer got hate, too. You know why? Because he's incompetent, vain, and an ass. There are two intersecting patterns here: first, that vain, incompetent asses get hate; second, that most of the people in positions of power are vain, incompetent asses. Maybe people tend to notice more often when they're women, but the men aren't any different and they get plenty of well-deserved hate too.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by kzhahou »

Ellen Pao has zero trust from the community.

A lot of people said this was because Pao is a woman and reddit is sexist. But then explain this reaction to Victoria.

Here's a thought: the reddit community despises Pao because Pao is in no way part of the community. She's a bizdev-turned-investor corporate suit who seemingly came out of nowhere to now run the site.

She's posted very few times since becoming interim CEO. In fact, only 56 posts.

* 3 short messages when her interim-CEO position was announced.

* 9 when she posted the new privacy policy.

* 8 for Nepal earthquake relief.

* 9 posts for the reddit 10-year anniversary. This, to me, is lame. This is a classic senior executive move where they hide in their office all year round and no one has a clue what the fuck they do, if anything, but they emerge just during the victory celebrations.

Since becoming interim CEO, she has an average ONE post every five days. One posted message -- not even one submission every five days, which would be meatier. By contrast, Jack Dorsey has an average 5 tweets a day since twitter started. Is there any doubt Dorsey uses his own product? Well, we can see that Ellen does not use the product that she is running (unless she has some anonymous accounts). She made a gaffe recently where she posted a message publicly to a user that was meant to be private -- fair or not, that solidified the narrative that she is not a Reddit user.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by Mahn »

yaeger wrote: post #403
tomasien wrote: post #117

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Interesting fact w/r/t how pissed people are at him on Reddit: people have gone back and downvoted every single one of his comments now, to the point that several pages back his comments (typically which get upvoted like crazy) are in the negatives. https://www.reddit.com/user/kn0thing?count=25&after=t1_cslum... This seems over blown

Still, it is only symbolic. Not that internet points are really that important anyway but seeing as his last posts are already 4 days old, all this reactionary downvoting will do nothing to his overall "karma". After 2 days, a downvote will not reduce your karma. So yeah, all this does is show the rest that apparently there are a lot of upset people out there.

> All this does is show the rest that apparently there are a lot of upset people out there.

Which is actually important; if you run the site and your comments have a -2000 karma your users are telling you a very clear message that something isn't right.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by beedogs »

markdown wrote: post #196
nols wrote: post #110

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Spare us, Reddit's been mismanaged for long before Ms Pao started there. Just look at Alexis Ohanian's (kn0thing) comments[0]. Not to mention the celeb nudes debacle, which was allowed then disallowed and announced by a sysadmin [1]. And the then CEO Yishan Wong publicly fighting with a former employee [2]. Then we can go way back to /r/jailbait and the Violentacrez affair, the only mod to be awarded a golden trophy…

> And the then CEO Yishan Wong publicly fighting with a former employee This was awesome. The employee started the trash talk, fully expecting Reddit not to defend itself (as expected of bullshit corporate america). It was perfect /r/justiceporn when Wong came out swinging in response. Glorious to see.

To me it was low-class and unprofessional to see a CEO do that.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by beedogs »

revelation wrote: post #535
unfunco wrote: post #360

I'm really not trying to troll here. Reddit started going badly downhill (where it was a visible and public departure from what it was previously) from around the time that Sam Altman personally invested in the company nine months ago, an announcement that almost ruptured my cringe-pipes. I laughed internally at the notion that he thinks he's altruistic by giving 10% back to the users, whilst in the same announcement…

It's like Reddit is this persistent YC nightmare that he feels he needs to "right the history" on it and somehow make it successful. And they're just massively failing at every step. Out of touch, out of clue. Reddit the company is at this point completely removed from the actual site. They went back into startup mode but you would never know it looking at the site. No new features, same old shitty reliability, nothi…

If anything, the site has gotten markedly worse from a reliability standpoint in recent months.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by Slothrop99 »

kefka wrote: post #553
pjc50 wrote: post #548

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Usenet was decentralised, and therefore utterly unable to deal with spam and abuse. That's a problem any distributed system will have to face too.

There were techniques we were working on prior to the ISPs neglecting them. One such technique was a crypto method, similar to what has been recommended in reducing spam in emails. The client has to do some lengthy crypto transform for the message(and NG) they send. On average, it would take .5 sec to generate per message. Small amounts of messages would get through, but spammers would be unable to bulk-send without…

As someone who hung around a few usenet discussion groups well into the 21st century, the problem was less "spam" and more "trolls and kooks". It only takes a very small number of people to completely disrupt a group, and no, "plonking" was not a solution that worked. A new usenet would need some sort of moderation system.
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