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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by MichaelGG »

minimaxir wrote: post #7
Smerity wrote: post #5

One of the most telling points is from /u/imakuram, moderator for /r/books: "This seems to be a seriously stupid decision. We have several AMAs upcoming in /r/books and have no idea how to contact the authors."[1] They really shot the communities in the foot by not giving them any notice or support. Given that the key feature in ensuring the quality of Reddit is the moderation "donated" by the community, this is a de…

Alexis is not helping matters either: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riam...

Later on he says it was dumb of him, then goes on to plead:

"At this point, however, the blackout has served its purpose, and now it’s time to get Reddit functioning again"

And downplays it as just a moderator-reddit communication issue. Right.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by rodgerd »

ljk wrote: post #425
beedogs wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thing is, before they started hellbanning all of those subreddits (TrayvonMartin, fatpeoplehate, etc.) I had no idea they even existed. For 8 years I've been blissfully unaware of all the garbage subreddits popping up.

same here, i have not heard about any of these extreme subreddit until the /r/fph announcement, and i've been on reddit before the "digg exodus" i wonder if non-reddit-users think of the entire reddit community as hateful...

> i wonder if non-reddit-users think of the entire reddit community as hateful...

Reddit is pretty much a byword for "steaming mound of vileness" around various chunks of the 'net. A couple of years ago I would have said it was no worse than old-school Usenet, but it seems to be increasingly suffering from the same problem Digg did before it died, of brigading, upvoting cartels, and so on. FPH is a high profile example, but there's a constant wash of racist brigading many of the defaults, even sweeping into dataisbeautiful after the Charleston church massacre.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by DanBC »

sentenza wrote: post #461
throwaway538779 wrote: post #454

Hacker News is behaving weirdly with respect to this story: It's been up for 9 hours and has 714 points but is lower on the front page than "What was the technology stack driving the original Ultima Online servers?" which has been up for 18 hours and has less than half (307) the points. What's going on here?

This thread reads more like reddit than it does like HN. So probably somebody behind the scenes sent it on its path downwards. Might even be the right thing to do, since the whole situation is far from known and opinions boil over. Who knows.

"behind the scenes" also includes users who flag. There's a small karma threshold for flagging, so many people are able to do it.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by golergka »

istvan__ wrote: post #103
golergka wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The facts may be true (and personally, I believe they are), but the text itself is awful. It has circular logic in it: * Thesis "Pao hates women" — I expect it to be proven in the following points. * Some proof... * Some more proof... * Some proof of the opposite — but as we know, Ellen Pao is a misogynist [so it's false, and now we don't consider this fact anymore] And overall, it's written more like a propaganda pi…

I did not write that I cant prove it but I hope somebody has more context. The things that I state are proven see link below.

Since I didn't raise any doubts about factual correctness of this comment, only about it's style, I don't see how your comment is relevant.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by wingerlang »

astrowilliam wrote: post #248
wingerlang wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Loading animation in the beginning, I'm bored already. After loading, it just looks like some clickbait buzzfeed or auto-generated "read these 5 articles more, please" because of the big pictures set in a grid.

Thanks for the feedback. We are playing around with different layouts to see what people like more, so far the big picture layout isn't exactly what we are looking for but we are still working on it. I'm wondering if you actually read the article titles or if you just closed it down before noticing any of them?

I did not read them, no. Just went back and did, nothing special. Same like every website (this is not criticism, although I don't like clickbaity titles in general, like "Xi Jinping has run into the one thing in China he can't control".

Grid layout is still shit, It makes it harder to skim and keep track of where you were.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by pervycreeper »

DanBC wrote: post #397
jsmthrowaway wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But it clearly was. That's the problem. It's not clear. There's a lot of unanswered questions there: how does off-site activity on Tumblr and other sites get linked back to specific people and the overall thrust of a subreddit? How do you even solve that problem in general? I have personally observed chan (not 4chan) threads involving skimming certain subreddits and finding targets to harass without even having Red…

Reddit does have a consistant position: 1) don't brigade. 2) don't dox 3) mods can mod what they like; the commonly agreed best subs use extensive vigorous modding 4) admins aren't going to get involved unless you break the tiny number of rules. Reddit should release the graphs that subs have of visitors. A FPH brigade causes 10,000 extra visitors, thousands of extra votes, and hundreds of comments. In smaller subs t…

>Reddit does have a consistant position

Even if the "position" in statements by the administrators were "consistent" (doubtful, but that's besides the point), the application of these rules is manifestly not.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by DanBC »

LiquidFlux wrote: post #469
throwaway538779 wrote: post #454

Hacker News is behaving weirdly with respect to this story: It's been up for 9 hours and has 714 points but is lower on the front page than "What was the technology stack driving the original Ultima Online servers?" which has been up for 18 hours and has less than half (307) the points. What's going on here?

Have HN admins addressed comments regarding weighting concerns in the past?

Yes, dang sometimes comments about whether posts were demoted by them or by user-flags.

I think they prefer people to email these questions?

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by adventured »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #441
adventured wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only three action approaches. 1) Distraction. Good luck with that, but you can try to redirect the attention. Start a fire somewhere else, make a big announcement, etc. One problem with this, is there's a lot more animosity in the air at Reddit than just what relates to this specific situation. 2) Negotiate and directly engage with the community. Some variation of giving in to their demands. Console them. E…

Are you actually a PR/marketing professional, or are you just volunteering your personal speculation?

The third part of the parent's conditional: experience with running or dealing with online communities (from building and operating sites that have them, since the 1990s).

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by joshlegs »

forgottenpass wrote: post #56
blhack wrote: post #33

It's kindof astonishing what is happening over at reddit right now. "The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users ke…

It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users keep getting pissed off at them. I can't agree more, back in the jedberg/HueyPreist days the staff felt like reddit users, now you get the feeling the office just looks at the community as a magic box of unpaid labor. Anyone putting in real effort is bette…

What's really funny though, is that this was prompted by someone who seems to have been excellent at marketing, given her stellar reputation among the reddit userbase and universal praise from all of her AMA collaborators. I can't help but think all this will end up in her netting some really swank job. I've seen some post that claimed insider knowledge that Taylor was fired because she resisted further monetization of the AMA series. Given some of the decisions over there I don't find that implausible in the least.

Best wishes to Taylor in all she does. She seemed like a very competent gal.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by kaoD »

karlshea wrote: post #165
idointernet wrote: post #106

This isn't another Digg V4. It's a riot - http://gizmodo.com/256982/breaking-digg-riot-in-full-effect-...

The best part of that story is realizing I haven't seen the term "Web 2.0" recently.

My girlfriend is doing a master's degree in archival science on digital preservation. I hadn't heard so many "Web 2.0" and "Web 3.0" thrown around in a while :(
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