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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by wvenable »

personjerry wrote: post #71

This seems like an abuse of power to me. The people who have closed the subreddits are the moderators. These moderators should represent the desires of the users . In this case, they are instead caring for their own personal feelings/ease of moderation through communication with the Victoria. As a result, hundreds of thousands of redditors are cut off from their friends and fellow subredditors. Even the AMAs are cut…

Moderators created those subreddits and gives them the power to close them, make them private, etc. IAMA was just somebody's idea at some point and it became popular. It even changed a lot over the years.

As I user, I fully support the shutdown. I wish every major sub would shutdown.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by x0x0 »

darkmighty wrote: post #329
x0x0 wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few hundred million for what -- a largely unmonetizable high traffic website full of tantrum throwing racists, bigots, and pornographers? They don't make much money from ads (they were unprofitable through at least 2012 afaik) and probably can't monetize that way -- even past the brand safety issues, it's still a forum that would feel lucky to get perhaps 50 cent cpm advertising on US traffic. I'd be shocked if the…

The thing is, 'reddit-likes' have definitively a place in the Internet, and I mean for the next couple decades. This format has been iterated over and over, starting with slashdot, 4chan, digg et al, and it's obviously one of the best ways we ever found to manage large discussions/news/etc. HN is an example. Reddit is growing and would continue to grow really quickly. There's no competition in sight. Owning the discu…

Will there be chat forums on the internet? Yes, obviously. But that's unrelated to a particular forum's value as a business.

As far as reddit growing, is the plan to lose money on each pv but make it up in volume?

Even stack overflow seems to have trouble monetizing, and that's both brand safe and targeted to a valuable audience.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by Crito »

mtdono wrote: post #349
Crito wrote: post #317

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Given the bizarre nature of Jackson's comments in that AMA, I somewhat suspect that Victoria fucked up by writing down what Jackson was saying over the phone verbatim . Doing that is usually a good way to make somebody seem rather illiterate. For example, people are much looser with the way they structure sentences and organize thoughts when speaking in an unprepared manner. When you listen to audio of them talking,…

The JJ angle has already been removed as the reason for dismissal. (Besides, Victoria is known, adored for actually being able to type down what the person doing the AMA sounds like --see Jeff Glodblum AMA). See here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI9iYW7VAAAzzJN.png I suspect that this had much more to do with the one thing that a management team is more interested in: money. - AMAs are (or were?) probably one of the…

Well I don't know how else you explain those responses.

The only other two explanations I can think of are "Victoria was posting replies to the wrong comments" or "Jackson _actually_is_ illiterate".

Seriously, the responses were borderline incoherent.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by adventured »

_delirium wrote: post #340
thisisdallas wrote: post #73

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>The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. The first rule of the internet is you don't censor the internet.

Eh, I have trouble extending the concept of "censorship" of the internet to private websites deciding what can go on their own sites. HN flags and kills threads too. That's not censorship, because HN is Y Combinator's website, so they can pick and choose what kind of content they do and don't want discussed on their site. I could imagine saying, "[HN | Reddit | Slashdot | whatever] is running their site in a way I di…

It probably would have been better to frame it as: you can have open communities (old Reddit), or controlled communities (new Reddit) - but you can't have a controlled community that pretends to be an open community (not for very long, the contradiction destroys itself).

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by bgilroy26 »

HappyTypist wrote: post #289

Marc Bodnick commented on why Victoria was fired: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI9iYW7VAAAzzJN.png I consider him to be a reputable source and the claims are very plausible. Out of touch management never know how out of touch they are.

This s the best information we have so far, but it's confusing. There have been a bunch of video IAMAs before

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by nathan_f77 »

ktsmith wrote: post #343
intended wrote: post #235

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The IAMA sub going offline/private was NOT about solidarity. They needed Victoria to function, without her they are scrambling to figure out how they will do any upcoming AMAs. The current AMA schedule (20 AMAs) will be scrapped. "a load bearing wall in the house of AMA has been removed"- Knothing. R/science had a similar problem, based on what a mod said in the original out of the loop thread. As for The other subs,…

> "a load bearing wall in the house of AMA has been removed" - Knothing That is a quote by karmanaut not kn0thing (Alexis Ohanian). The comments by kn0thing have been in some cases just fuel for the fire.

Yeah, I feel a bit sorry for kn0thing. This must be an incredibly stressful time in the Reddit office, and that really comes through in his comments.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by subsection1h »

adventured wrote: post #107
Smerity wrote: post #5

One of the most telling points is from /u/imakuram, moderator for /r/books: "This seems to be a seriously stupid decision. We have several AMAs upcoming in /r/books and have no idea how to contact the authors."[1] They really shot the communities in the foot by not giving them any notice or support. Given that the key feature in ensuring the quality of Reddit is the moderation "donated" by the community, this is a de…

Peak Reddit was 2011-2014. The people running the 'business' just don't realize it yet. Three years from now, Reddit will be half as influential as it has been these past three years. A community like Reddit is incredibly challenging to keep balanced long-term. Services like it just tend to blow-up eventually. The upside is, innovation will probably come out of its meltdown, new types of services will bloom, and wipe…

> Peak Reddit was 2011-2014.

No, bozarking deleted his account in January 2010.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by pests »

thaw12 wrote: post #284
pests wrote: post #232

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Voat runs a modified version of the reddit open source code.

Wait, I thought it ran on a completely different codebase? It's hung from an ASP.NET framework running on an IIS server. https://github.com/voat/voat

I think I stand corrected. Thanks.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by pests »

pixl97 wrote: post #320
thaw12 wrote: post #284

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Wait, I thought it ran on a completely different codebase? It's hung from an ASP.NET framework running on an IIS server. https://github.com/voat/voat

Trying to grow a site to Reddits size on IIS? That won't end well.

While totally forgetting sites like StackOverflow use IIS.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by unfunco »

I'm really not trying to troll here.

Reddit started going badly downhill (where it was a visible and public departure from what it was previously) from around the time that Sam Altman personally invested in the company nine months ago, an announcement that almost ruptured my cringe-pipes. I laughed internally at the notion that he thinks he's altruistic by giving 10% back to the users, whilst in the same announcement he mentions reddit reaching a billion users.

So, Sam was boasting that of his shares he owns 90%, whilst each of the "shareholders" (a reddit user) has 0.0000000001% – and that's exactly what I expect from investors.

Then Yishan Wong resigns, it felt more like a pushing, one month after Sam invests, and is replaced by Pao; who has a history of going after previous employers because she's angry that she's a woman. Nobody has the nerve to fire Pao because they're afraid of being called sexist.

This is Silicon Valley at it's most entertaining.

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