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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by ljk »

astrowilliam wrote: post #248
wingerlang wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Loading animation in the beginning, I'm bored already. After loading, it just looks like some clickbait buzzfeed or auto-generated "read these 5 articles more, please" because of the big pictures set in a grid.

Thanks for the feedback. We are playing around with different layouts to see what people like more, so far the big picture layout isn't exactly what we are looking for but we are still working on it. I'm wondering if you actually read the article titles or if you just closed it down before noticing any of them?

hopefully your site takes off! i felt like he was a little too harsh, the site does look a little too simple maybe that could put some people off

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by vonklaus »

scrollaway wrote: post #242
vonklaus wrote: post #215

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People caring to much about bullshit like ethics in game journalism are missing the forest for the trees. Pleasing special interest groups in a massively diverse community isn't possible, that's why democracy is typically favored over this bullypulpit nonsense.

So what you're saying is "Caring about any single little/domain-specific problem is bad because there's war, cancer and starvation"? Fallacy of relative privation, much?

> begging the question

but seriously, it was my snarky way of saying that:

1)Creating a system level heuristic to deal with types of problems is a more transparent, consistent and efficient way forward than simply tackling problems as they come up arbitrarily.

2)I am sick of this boys vs. girls/pc/whatever tropic bullshit, and the failure to enact a codified set of principals within reddit has allowed for groups with opposing views to discretely exert influence against one another. This murky climate lead to all sides entrenching and leveraging the influence they had acquired.

>content has been sliding >doxxing has gone up >several of the largest sections of the site are literally closed down >community is faltering >no side wants to compromise

tl;dr Flame wars are why this happened. Gaming is one of the stupid tropes that lead to this. I got #triggered.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by drspacemonkey »

sanswork wrote: post #255
drspacemonkey wrote: post #162

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Didn't people say similar things about Digg's short-term collective memory right before their ... "mishap"?

I'd say people who think Diggs change was anything similar to the current reddit changes has a very short memory.

Nature of the changes != collective memory span of the community.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by x0x0 »

darkmighty wrote: post #268
x0x0 wrote: post #134

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Reddit is a pretty terrible business. Discussion boards in general are a terrible business. Redditors can migrate anywhere they want, but the question is where are they welcome, particularly in volume? voat is begging for money, fighting with paypal, and being forced to kill wannabe kiddy porn / jailbait. I'm sure reddit would be super tore up if the fat haters, racists, and jailbait traders left :rolleyes:

A terrible business that I think could be sold in a heartbeat for a few hundred million dollars to the big players, so is it really that bad?

A few hundred million for what -- a largely unmonetizable high traffic website full of tantrum throwing racists, bigots, and pornographers? They don't make much money from ads (they were unprofitable through at least 2012 afaik) and probably can't monetize that way -- even past the brand safety issues, it's still a forum that would feel lucky to get perhaps 50 cent cpm advertising on US traffic. I'd be shocked if they could clear 50 million, and that would be from someone who was going to fire the majority of employees and just run the site out. Particularly with digg's example of how fickle internet users can be.

I'm aware it was invested in at a 1/2 billion valuation, and good luck to them, but I stand by my analysis.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by sanswork »

drspacemonkey wrote: post #323
sanswork wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say people who think Diggs change was anything similar to the current reddit changes has a very short memory.

Nature of the changes != collective memory span of the community.

Nature of the changes is what made Diggs mishap matter. The attention span didn't matter because people were gone before they stopped caring.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by theskyislikely »

markdown wrote: post #203
plorkyeran wrote: post #133

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It's also a nice example of how being the single point of failure for something doesn't provide as much job security as some seem to think.

It seems more likely that her employers didn't fully appreciate how much value she provided.

Or how much value the mods provide, working entirely for free.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by Crito »

philtar wrote: post #121
exelius wrote: post #57

Aaand this is how Reddit does. Because this is basically how Digg died and created Reddit. Who out there has a reddit clone ready to take up the torch? Communities are fickle, and if you fuck with them they will abandon you quickly and en masse.

http://voat.co

Wake me when they're not hosted on a pocket calculator.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by cyboris »

Generally its symptomatic of a business not understanding how it works any more.

In any business, employees will be fired, employees will leave.

The weakness here was that Reddit seems to have no business continuity plan for the one subreddit that gets the best publicity. Anything that attracts presidents, and A-list stars should have been able to lose an admin with minimal chaos.

Misunderstanding the role of a critical employee lead to this and now they have to struggle to catch up and figure out what the heck Victoria really did.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by darkmighty »

x0x0 wrote: post #324
darkmighty wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A terrible business that I think could be sold in a heartbeat for a few hundred million dollars to the big players, so is it really that bad?

A few hundred million for what -- a largely unmonetizable high traffic website full of tantrum throwing racists, bigots, and pornographers? They don't make much money from ads (they were unprofitable through at least 2012 afaik) and probably can't monetize that way -- even past the brand safety issues, it's still a forum that would feel lucky to get perhaps 50 cent cpm advertising on US traffic. I'd be shocked if the…

The thing is, 'reddit-likes' have definitively a place in the Internet, and I mean for the next couple decades. This format has been iterated over and over, starting with slashdot, 4chan, digg et al, and it's obviously one of the best ways we ever found to manage large discussions/news/etc. HN is an example.

Reddit is growing and would continue to grow really quickly. There's no competition in sight. Owning the discussion backbone of the internet is massively valuable, comparable at least to WhatsApp I'd say.

Can it die out due to massive exodus? Sure, but something similar will replace it. And for each iteration (slashdot,digg,etc), those websites have become larger and more consolidated. It's fair to assume at some point it will reach long term stability (particularly if it's properly managed).

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by [deleted] »

x0x0 wrote: post #324
darkmighty wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A terrible business that I think could be sold in a heartbeat for a few hundred million dollars to the big players, so is it really that bad?

A few hundred million for what -- a largely unmonetizable high traffic website full of tantrum throwing racists, bigots, and pornographers? They don't make much money from ads (they were unprofitable through at least 2012 afaik) and probably can't monetize that way -- even past the brand safety issues, it's still a forum that would feel lucky to get perhaps 50 cent cpm advertising on US traffic. I'd be shocked if the…

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