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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by tzs »

seehafer wrote: post #84
mhomde wrote: post #17

What a circus reddit has become. There's probably/hopefully more to this story but still. It will be interesting to see if reddit forces the hands of the biggest subreddits to open again. Which raises an interesting question, who "owns" a subreddit, the mods? the subscribers? reddit? I also wonder if it's a good idea for a community like reddit to have "public facing" administrators Many of the biggest subreddits are…

If /r/aww, /r/funny and /r/pics did the same, Reddit's traffic would fall off a cliff.

/r/pics has joined in.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by antjanus »

keithwhor wrote: post #236
antjanus wrote: post #207

I'd love to hear some people's opinions: what's the next reddit? Where will people go? I've been looking at alternatives ever since all the stupid crap with mods came out (mods messing with submissions, resubmitting under their name, and deleting stuff they didn't agree with) and some of my favorite subreddits started to rot. And now, it feels like Reddit is really falling apart. Any suggestions?

Within the next two weeks we're going to see just about every Reddit clone and/or variation that exists spring into action. One of them will be lucky enough to gain enough traction to replace Reddit, though it will take a couple of years for the transition to complete. I have next to no doubt that these are the death throes of Reddit. I'm not personally invested in these politics (though it is fascinating to watch un…

I'm sure there will be a hundred clones. I do hope someone will just try a brand new way of doing content and people will be like "Oh yeah! That works really well!"

I've been disillusioned with reddit when I saw that the niche subreddits no longer get updated :/ and the bigger subreddits are ruled by an iron fist of mods. The content doesn't refresh as often as I'd like either (in the 2nd tier subreddits, the ones that aren't default but are still really popular).

Anyways, all good points. I used HC and Slack both and have to say that they seem almost identical to me.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by vonklaus »

thisisdallas wrote: post #73
blhack wrote: post #33

It's kindof astonishing what is happening over at reddit right now. "The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users ke…

>The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. The first rule of the internet is you don't censor the internet.

Reddit it's founders/community/company have been against PIPA/CISPA/TPP and pro EFF . Freedom on the site and an anti-censorship policy is "that one thing you need to get right", and will allow you to survive through getting a lot of other things wrong.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by rando289 »

Nexxxeh wrote: post #55

Pao actually tried submitting a PM to a subreddit. Not a screenshot, the actual URL for the PM. If she has an area of expertise other than "diversity", she seems to be flubbing it.

I'm slightly confused. A PM url is a broken link for everyone else right?

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by mtdono »

wonderthrowaway wrote: post #59
btown wrote: post #41

The admin in question, Victoria (/u/chooter), is still posting, and gives every indication that it was not an expected nor voluntary departure: https://www.reddit.com/user/chooter /u/karmanaut, one of the most prolific moderators, gave some insight into why this is such a big deal: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... > We had a number of AMAs scheduled for today that Victoria was supposed…

> Part of it is proof, of course: we know it's legitimate when she's sitting right there next to the person and can make them provide proof. We've had situations where agents or others have tried to do an AMA as their client, and Victoria shut that [...] down immediately. Righteous firing or not, a lot of this is a lesson in avoiding a SPOF.

From a systems dynamics point-of-view, single points of failure are problematic.

However, in human dynamics and the foundation of all leadership (and thus creating genuine followership), it requires a single point of accountability.

Leaders of any community are accountable to their followers. Leaders have to realize that the community and the purpose are always more important than them.

I think the reason why u/chooter was considered a leader (or top-notch liason between admins and mods) was because of her commitment to the quality of the AMA.

I think the reason why u/chooter is adored by readers was for the same reason, though typically expressed by her inate ability to capture the AMA guests voices, mannerisms, etc. She was being 100% accountable to the community and the purpose that she was serving.

This is a thing to be admired, encouraged, and emulated. Not scorned or spoken of in terms of an acronym.

I'm not picking a thread fight, as I think your perspective is very important within hardware networks and/or very relevant in process management, it's quite inaccurate when describing the human dynamics involved with building a community.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by goldman60 »

27182818284 wrote: post #70

I hate to do what is an essentially a "me too" post of sorts, but as an old, old Reddit user, I'm really confused by the moves made in the last few months. I can't think of another time I've been immediately like, "Why?!" in reaction to Reddit's actions. Usually when I see a new feature, direction, policy, etc, my thoughts are, "Huh. Makes sense"

My only why moment I can think of was removing the vote counts on comments, (?|?)gate. But that was a minor little blip on the radar and I wasn't super bothered by it.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by adventured »

astrowilliam wrote: post #177

This is the exact reason why we started PushdUp. As a long time reddit user I was getting sick of the drama that was happening and decided to take it upon myself to create something different. We are still in VERY early alpha so there are bound to be some bugs. Come join the revolution. http://www.pushdup.com , feedback is welcome and encouraged.

Remove the "privacy" and "about" links in the top left. That's among your most valuable real-estate. 99.x% of your users will never read either page, not under any scenario. Move them somewhere else reasonable.

You might say: well, but it's important to explain our culture on the about page; to explain what we're all about. To that I say: no it's not, your users are not going to partake in, or come to understand, your site's culture via an about page. That happens on the site itself.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by darkmighty »

x0x0 wrote: post #134
keithy wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing at all. Reddit is OK already, but the new management seems to want to change it more and more. These new CEO's want to always push their "vision" for what reddit should be despite what the userbase wants and the backlash for that is already showing. The thing is, the power doesn't rest on the CEO or the company, it rests on the user base. Redditors can migrate to any ot…

Reddit is a pretty terrible business. Discussion boards in general are a terrible business. Redditors can migrate anywhere they want, but the question is where are they welcome, particularly in volume? voat is begging for money, fighting with paypal, and being forced to kill wannabe kiddy porn / jailbait. I'm sure reddit would be super tore up if the fat haters, racists, and jailbait traders left :rolleyes:

A terrible business that I think could be sold in a heartbeat for a few hundred million dollars to the big players, so is it really that bad?

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by [deleted] »

flashman wrote: post #72
Smerity wrote: post #5

One of the most telling points is from /u/imakuram, moderator for /r/books: "This seems to be a seriously stupid decision. We have several AMAs upcoming in /r/books and have no idea how to contact the authors."[1] They really shot the communities in the foot by not giving them any notice or support. Given that the key feature in ensuring the quality of Reddit is the moderation "donated" by the community, this is a de…

> They really shot the communities in the foot by not giving them any notice or support. Reddit's major liability (and yet, one of its strengths) is the devolvement of responsibility to moderators. Without their volunteer work, the site couldn't have grown as big as it has. But mods have the power to utterly trash the site through collective action. The admins have spent years saying that moderators are responsible f…

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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by nota_bene »

keithy wrote: post #60
blhack wrote: post #33

It's kindof astonishing what is happening over at reddit right now. "The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users ke…

Sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing at all. Reddit is OK already, but the new management seems to want to change it more and more. These new CEO's want to always push their "vision" for what reddit should be despite what the userbase wants and the backlash for that is already showing. The thing is, the power doesn't rest on the CEO or the company, it rests on the user base. Redditors can migrate to any ot…

> Redditors can migrate to any other website they choose to, just like Digg users migrated to reddit some years ago. The people have the power in the end.

Word.

You can create/boost the movement with https://www.iWouldDo.it

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