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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by vonklaus »

Uhhrrr wrote: post #44

This is just amazingly tone-deaf on Reddit's part. I don't even read IAMA regularly and I knew Victoria was well-liked. What is Ellen Pao paying attention to if not their highest-profile subreddit? Did she have no transitional plan?

> This is just amazingly tone-deaf on Reddit's part.

They do not think like a business. They are a storage mechanism for other peoples content which their users generously provide for them to index. They don't make content, they don't generate revenue, they are stuck in a web2.0 model being valued on a per user basis. Reddit probably can't recover as community, but almost certainly not as a business.

> What is Ellen Pao paying attention to

Ideally the calls for her resignation, but it is to little to late probably.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by toufka »

minimaxir wrote: post #3

More Context into the events that possibly led to the layoff: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_wa... Alexis Ohanian's response: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... List of subreddits suddenly going private: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_...

PLoS, the open-access science publication, was putting on an excellent series [1]. Given Victoria's role in that, her loss puts that significant scientific outreach in jeopardy. A sad casualty. It was fantastic to see the front-lines of cutting edge research getting asked, answering, and otherwise motivating a lot of really interesting public discussion. Even if they repost all that old discussion (all those links on the blog currently don't work), it won't be trivial to fill Victoria's role in the upcoming AMAs, if they hold them at all.

[1] http://blogs.plos.org/plos/2015/06/update-on-plos-science-we...

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by drspacemonkey »

blhack wrote: post #33

It's kindof astonishing what is happening over at reddit right now. "The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users ke…

According to kn0thing, it's a shame, "but so it goes". And then there's the implication that they're all sitting back and enjoying popcorn while Reddit consumes itself.

http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama...

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by lingben »

forgottenpass wrote: post #56
blhack wrote: post #33

It's kindof astonishing what is happening over at reddit right now. "The internet" has it's own culture, and the people running reddit right now (one of the places where this culture is the strongest, imo), seem to have no idea how to interface with it. It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users ke…

It honestly feels like it got taken over by silicon valley middle management marketing types or something, and now they just can't seem to figure out why the users keep getting pissed off at them. I can't agree more, back in the jedberg/HueyPreist days the staff felt like reddit users, now you get the feeling the office just looks at the community as a magic box of unpaid labor. Anyone putting in real effort is bette…

reddit is one of the simplest and easiest sites for a new user to learn to use. Somehow, Ellen Pao doesn't know how to use reddit, nevermind what the culture and community that has built over a decade truly means.

She meant to send someone a pm but did a selfpost instead and then hurriedly erased it and banned everyone that responded to the selfpost:

https://archive.is/9RFIp

Reminds me of my grandmother sending me a picture by sending the c:/ link in the email.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by adventured »

anonymousab wrote: post #51
grecy wrote: post #10

I wonder if Reddit is big enough to survive these kinds of recent outcries [1], or if it's destined to go the way of digg, etc. [1] Only a week or so ago there was a huge outcry about censorship, which resulted in a lot of negative personal information being posted about the current Reddit CEO. Now we have this.

>or if it's destined to go the way of digg, etc. Does Reddit's competition of today have as much reach/popularity as Digg's did when that exodus occurred?

Won't matter. There's no real lock-in among text / link content communities. They're trivial to build, there will never be a lack of new variations. Reddit doesn't even have possession of the vast media (youtube, imgur) that gets posted to its service, making it that much easier to replace.

Imgur will probably see among the greatest benefit as Reddit erodes.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by tomasien »

minimaxir wrote: post #7
Smerity wrote: post #5

One of the most telling points is from /u/imakuram, moderator for /r/books: "This seems to be a seriously stupid decision. We have several AMAs upcoming in /r/books and have no idea how to contact the authors."[1] They really shot the communities in the foot by not giving them any notice or support. Given that the key feature in ensuring the quality of Reddit is the moderation "donated" by the community, this is a de…

Alexis is not helping matters either: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riam...

Interesting fact w/r/t how pissed people are at him on Reddit: people have gone back and downvoted every single one of his comments now, to the point that several pages back his comments (typically which get upvoted like crazy) are in the negatives.

https://www.reddit.com/user/kn0thing?count=25&after=t1_cslum...

This seems over blown

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by meesterdude »

exelius wrote: post #57

Aaand this is how Reddit does. Because this is basically how Digg died and created Reddit. Who out there has a reddit clone ready to take up the torch? Communities are fickle, and if you fuck with them they will abandon you quickly and en masse.

voat is a clone; but I don't think reddit as a platform is strong enough. I think it works for a lot of things (obviously) but other things it sucks terribly at.

Still, getting communities right is hard. Obviously. I have something in the works but, it's fairly different, and you know how these things can go south.

But i think this is good. it will spur innovation in the space, and thats good for everyone. Well, except reddit.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by zobzu »

istvan__ wrote: post #99
jrockway wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[citation needed] on all of that.

http://time.com/3904431/ellen-pao-appeal-sexism-case/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Fletcher

I work in the silicon valley and I got quite a few promotion offers denied because I'm a white male and that's not promoting diversity. Heck, I didn't even mind it so much as long as the other candidates are +- qualified.

But by that logic, I guess I should sue! ;-) Oh wait...

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Post by spiralpolitik »

arprocter wrote: post #76
keithy wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes the best thing to do is to do nothing at all. Reddit is OK already, but the new management seems to want to change it more and more. These new CEO's want to always push their "vision" for what reddit should be despite what the userbase wants and the backlash for that is already showing. The thing is, the power doesn't rest on the CEO or the company, it rests on the user base. Redditors can migrate to any ot…

Think it's a coincidence that now the legal case is pretty much over there are suddenly a lot of 'adjustments' being made?

More likely investors are getting restless and want to see some return. In these cases management feels it needs to have things under its control and starts removing power bases from lower down the org chart so that everything stays on message. AMA is Reddit's only viable asset so having it under control of someone who isn't part of the management clique is unthinkable.

Usually these attempts fail and the company is dead within 24 months having burned the village in an attempt to save the village.

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