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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Jesse Jackson had an AMA that did not go very well. Several of the most upvoted questions were simply disrespectful. The Reverend's answers were mostly boilerplate and often unresponsive to the question. The AMA seems to have been part of some PR rollout -- Mother Jones had an article three days ago about Jackson taking on Silicon Valley. The event seems to have failed the rollout's objectives. Not a great moment for…

If you are a public figure, it is your (really, your manager's or agent's) responsibility to manage your image. An important part of that is deciding which engagements are good opportunities for you and which are not. It is also your own responsibility to be prepared for an engagement to go poorly -- unexpected/negative questions, hecklers, etc -- and have a plan in place for how to respond to that. If you're not willing or able to do these things, you should decline invitations like this and live privately. Or at the very least, don't complain when you don't get the result you were hoping for when you accepted.

I think it's pretty forseeable that an AMA would likely result in a lot of uncomfortable questions for a highly controversial figure like Rev. Jackson. That can be an opportunity, or it can be a disaster. It does not seem that he was properly prepared for it either way. That's not Reddit's fault nor Chooter's; it's his.

All that said, it's clear that Reddit is not a well-managed company, and this appears to have gotten worse since they hired Ellen Pao. So it's certainly possible that the people calling the shots over there don't get it, or are trying to reimagine Reddit as something it is not. If that's so, then your theory is entirely plausible. But it still doesn't explain the lack of communication or any semblance of a backup plan. If you're employing someone who has no alternate, and you have no plan in place to transfer that person's duties, the only reason to fire that person on the spot is that they're committing felonies directly related to the company or its business. Anything else -- and I do mean anything else; I don't care if they took a giant shit right on your desk -- can wait 24 business hours while you get some kind of continuity plan in place. As a manager, if you can't control your own anger or impetuousness well enough to avoid torpedoing your own business out of spite, you don't belong in your role. Ellen Pao, we're looking at you.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Jesse Jackson had an AMA that did not go very well. Several of the most upvoted questions were simply disrespectful. The Reverend's answers were mostly boilerplate and often unresponsive to the question. The AMA seems to have been part of some PR rollout -- Mother Jones had an article three days ago about Jackson taking on Silicon Valley. The event seems to have failed the rollout's objectives. Not a great moment for…

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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

#63

More Context into the events that possibly led to the layoff: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_wa... Alexis Ohanian's response: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... List of subreddits suddenly going private: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_...

> Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause. The doublespeak is weird. If it's a protest, say so. There's no direct relation between the employee getting fired and a subreddit that is not focused on celebrity PR going dark.

They may just want to send a message to the admins without a formal declaration of war.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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A tangential point, but I really abhor this style of writing:

"/r/IAmA, /r/AskReddit, /r/science, /r/gaming, /r/history, /r/Art, /r/videos, /r/gadgets, and /r/movies have all made themselves private in response to the removal of an administrator key to the AMA process (... lots of other text ...) Major subreddits, including /r/4chan, /r/circlejerk and /r/ImGoingToHellForThis, have also expressed solidarity through going private."

So you read the fist part, building a mental model of what's going on ("ok, so these subs went private, which means others listed did something different"), only to have to update it because someone decided to split the list in two, probably going for style.

I see this happening particularly in news reports and it's really, really annoying. You may actually fail to connect those two separate parts together if you're skimming.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Something related I saw posted today is the news that the guy in charge of community at Digg ( /u/LordVinyl ) when the fallout occurred was hired to be in charge of shadowbans, something that has seemingly increased a lot (maybe due to the Ellen Pao issue). The /r/videos post is down obviously, but a mirror is here:

https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/192235

The problem is that the poster and everyone else was subsequently banned, which created a bit of a backslash.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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mega white knighting if I've ever seen it.

No. This is the reddit community wondering WTF is going on lately in the exec board room.

Same thing that goes on in every exec board room: stupidity, ignorance, self-delusion, ass-kissing, change for the sake of change, and various forms of backstabbing. Unless Reddit's user base is comprised entirely of kindergartners, they know that already.

They're not wondering what's going on; they're angry that what's going on is, at best, not what they want, or at worst, harmful and destructive. Probably nothing will come of it, but they figure they may as well try.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

#68
Well, I'm sure glad I don't have to work tomorrow. I don't know how Reddit is going to fix this. Unless they have photographic evidence that Victoria was literally eating puppies alive, I don't think they're going to win the community back to their side.

I understand that if you're going to fire someone, you can't very well go around telling a bunch of people that you're about to do that. They still should have had a better plan in place to pick up the slack first.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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People don't give a shit about 'reddit' as a thing, what they care about is the content people submit and the subreddits that foster the communities. They seem to be going through their own Digg v4 moment here, completely disregarding users because they think they're big enough to survive without them.

Felt I should share this. There are a number of really good established alternatives with great mods and admins for those who wish to branch out and check out something new: www.snapzu.com - Excellent content and friendly community. Has a unique XP/Leveling system and ability to post content into multiple subs. www.empeopled.com - Gives you more influence based on the amount of up-votes you've received. Use influence…

Reddit still has those subs about beating women and lynching black people, right? Get over yourself, voat is better than every single example you listed.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

#70
I hate to do what is an essentially a "me too" post of sorts, but as an old, old Reddit user, I'm really confused by the moves made in the last few months.

I can't think of another time I've been immediately like, "Why?!" in reaction to Reddit's actions. Usually when I see a new feature, direction, policy, etc, my thoughts are, "Huh. Makes sense"

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