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Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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The admin in question, Victoria (/u/chooter), is still posting, and gives every indication that it was not an expected nor voluntary departure: https://www.reddit.com/user/chooter

/u/karmanaut, one of the most prolific moderators, gave some insight into why this is such a big deal: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha...

> We had a number of AMAs scheduled for today that Victoria was supposed to help with, and they are all left absolutely high and dry (hence taking IAMA private to figure out the situation) She was still willing to help them today (before the sub was shut down, of course) even without being paid or required to do so. Just a sign of how much she is committed to what she does.

> The admins didn't realize how much we rely on Victoria. Part of it is proof, of course: we know it's legitimate when she's sitting right there next to the person and can make them provide proof. We've had situations where agents or others have tried to do an AMA as their client, and Victoria shut that [...] down immediately. We can't do that anymore. Part of it is also that Victoria is an essential lifeline of communication. When something goes wrong in an AMA, we can call and get it fixed immediately. Otherwise, we have to resort to desperately try messaging the person via Reddit (and they may not know to check their messages or even to look for these notifications).

In fact, it seems that they actually cut off active IAmAs in progress. https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616653911835807745

If there's anything to be learned here for the larger technology crowd, it's this: There are human single-points-of-failure just like there are in hardware. And if you can't avoid having a SPOF, don't kick it in the face out of nowhere and expect the world to continue chugging along like nothing happened.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty certain AMA disasters do not qualify as fireable. And firing the facilitator with a history of good AMAs for that reason is hardly an appropriate remedy even if that is so.

Shouldn't. But see this exchange in the archive ( https://archive.is/jouWQ#selection-17025.0-17025.134 ) 'Have you felt regretful for rushing to judgement after condemning the "perpetrators" of the Duke lacrosse rape scandal during 2006-07?' 'No, the pattern is consistent. And we never want injustice to occur. But the pattern is fairly obvious, and a very obvious pattern that must be ended.' The Reverend isn't intere…

My heart goes out to the athletes ruined by the scandal. There is another point of view. Something us Internet commenters don't often realize. Do you have any black friends who was at Duke during that time? Ask them to describe it.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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I'd be surprised if it was about that (at least only) and not more about reddit wanting to bring AMA's back to a team at their SF office rather than NY... but your guess is as good as mine

They could have handled a relocation related dismissal with less disruption and more notice.

you think? :) yah it seems either to have some immediate reason or an ignorant one.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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People don't give a shit about 'reddit' as a thing, what they care about is the content people submit and the subreddits that foster the communities. They seem to be going through their own Digg v4 moment here, completely disregarding users because they think they're big enough to survive without them.

Felt I should share this. There are a number of really good established alternatives with great mods and admins for those who wish to branch out and check out something new:

www.snapzu.com - Excellent content and friendly community. Has a unique XP/Leveling system and ability to post content into multiple subs.

www.empeopled.com - Gives you more influence based on the amount of up-votes you've received. Use influence to steer future of the site.

www.theneeds.com - Good content but a lot of it looks automated, possibly using bots. No discussion so you lose a lot of that community feel.

www.hubski.com - Classic alternative, been kicking it around for 4-5 years, but still little activity. Community is small but nice.

www.spreadit.it - A dark themed reddit alternative that is similar to reddit and easy to use. Content and community is lacking however.

Note: I didn't mention the voat boat because I felt they have a little too much hate/racism on there.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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> Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause. The doublespeak is weird. If it's a protest, say so. There's no direct relation between the employee getting fired and a subreddit that is not focused on celebrity PR going dark.

You've picked the wrong example here though. /r/science has hosted many AMAs in the past, so they are directly impacted.

Did I? Can't /r/science keep on functioning without AMAs through an intermediary in New York that's supposed to read questions and type answers for the supposedly smart scientists doing those Q&A sessions?

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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> Jesse Jackson had an AMA that did not go very well. Several of the most upvoted questions were simply disrespectful. I think anyone could have seen that coming. Anonymous accounts with community voting and an API to boot? This is only asking for trouble - especially if the AMA was done by an individual who wasn't familiar with the personality of the community or internet etiquette in general. Assuming every other A…

Plenty of AMAs go really well, so you definitely need to look for a cause other than the fact that reddit has anonymous accounts and community voting.

People seem to hate Jesse Jackson on HN too.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=jesse%20jackson&sort=byPopular...

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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I get that reddit is trying to run a successful business, but I don't think the staff is well served by assuming that the users will be happy little community-created-content worker bees no matter what they do. Users DGAF about the business.

All of the admins that were any good at interacting with the community are on the "reddit alum" section of the admin list (read: former employes). And more often than not, the staff doing the high-quality and visible community management was strangely the sysadmins and programmers.

Edit: not strange at all, I just realized that they were probably the only admins that were legit users too. Which would explain why I'd lump pre-sale spez and kn0thing in with people who actually interacted, they posted with their real usernames while also running all the sockpuppets making the site look alive.

Re: Front Page Subreddits Go Private in Response to Firing of Reddit Admin

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post #41

The admin in question, Victoria (/u/chooter), is still posting, and gives every indication that it was not an expected nor voluntary departure: https://www.reddit.com/user/chooter /u/karmanaut, one of the most prolific moderators, gave some insight into why this is such a big deal: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_ha... > We had a number of AMAs scheduled for today that Victoria was supposed…

It's not even that: apparently the mods weren't notified of the organizational change because "we were busy handling the day's flow of AMAs and taking care of those AMA guests took priority."

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riam...

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