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Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

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I like the potential of this, but not sure how filling out forms could be automated just yet. In a former life, I worked as a legal secretary and there always seemed to be subtle requirements I would have to fulfill like knowing how many copies something needed, who got which copy, and being able to fill out docket sheets based upon lawyer workload and client timing. I eventually developed a suite of tools that helpe…

This is really interesting, thanks for creating an account and commenting! I think that you're right - litigation related forms do have more complex requirements. That's one of the reasons we started with corporate documents, there seems to be a more common set of building blocks - smaller document sets, more routine requirements (like making sure everything gets signed and stored somewhere), etc. I'd be very interested to talk to you if you're up for a quick chat at some point about the litigation process though.

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who made the form agreements that you're using? You might be able to find a lawyer willing to supply you with these documents and also attach their name to them. That way your clients could have some confidence in the documents. There are thousands of different NDA and contractor forms floating out there on the Internet but they don't come with explanations of the qualifications/experience of the drafter.

> There are thousands of different NDA and contractor forms floating out there on the Internet but they don't come with explanations of the qualifications/experience of the drafter. This is really interesting and something we're looking at. Looks like you're an attorney as well.. let me know if you have an interest in chatting about this!

Always happy to chat about legal tech: addison@cameronhuff.com.

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

#23
I like the 'keeping your legal documents organized'. What is up with the pre-loaded "industry standard" templates? Are you guys a law firm? Do you carry malpractice insurance in case these "industry standard" templates are awful and screw up someone's startup?

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are thousands of different NDA and contractor forms floating out there on the Internet but they don't come with explanations of the qualifications/experience of the drafter. This is really interesting and something we're looking at. Looks like you're an attorney as well.. let me know if you have an interest in chatting about this!

Always happy to chat about legal tech: addison@cameronhuff.com.

Email sent :)

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

#25
> Pre-loaded with industry standard templates.

What industry? The legal industry? Transportation? Software? I agree with the feedback others are giving. The product interests me but there isn't nearly enough information for me to sign up, let alone trust you with any part of a legal document.

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

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> Pre-loaded with industry standard templates. What industry? The legal industry? Transportation? Software? I agree with the feedback others are giving. The product interests me but there isn't nearly enough information for me to sign up, let alone trust you with any part of a legal document.

Cool, appreciate this feedback. The point of doing a Show HN was to make the product better and more clear, and this is helpful for getting that info. We'll work on it.

Is there anything else that interests you about the product that you'd want to know more about?

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

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post #23

I like the 'keeping your legal documents organized'. What is up with the pre-loaded "industry standard" templates? Are you guys a law firm? Do you carry malpractice insurance in case these "industry standard" templates are awful and screw up someone's startup?

We're definitely not a law firm and we're not giving legal advice. Will put some more info on this up soon - we want to make this better.

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

#29
Seeing this comment thread, I couldn't resist the urge to shamelessly plug our own product Beagle (beagle.ai), which is a contract analysis tool. Like Ironclad, we're tackling the legal space, but where it looks like Ironclad helps you manage your contracts, Beagle helps you understand them.

Beagle uses NLP to provide you with a broad understanding of which party in the agreement is liable or responsible for what. In addition, it provides real-time negotiation tools. Reach out to us if you'd like a demo, we're currently bringing on new customers in private beta.

Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant

#30
This appears to be the unauthorized practice of law, unless there's something missing from your description.

Collecting information and using it to fill out templates forms a significant portion of the practice of transactional law (i.e., contracts). Most specifically, as to the legal judgement of what form(s), statements, or clauses are appropriate, what the terms should be, etc.

I'll give you guys a week to rethink your service and get a lawyer on board, but next Wednesday if your service hasn't changed I'm contacting the CA State Bar.

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