Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
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Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#2Hey HN! we created a better way to handle the most common paperwork needed by startups. Just sync a Dropbox folder with us and we’ll take care of all the legal paperwork for NDAs, Contractor agreements and LOIs and organize it in that folder automatically for you. We’re really looking for feedback on the flow and so any feedback is much appreciated.
The best way to jump right in is to go through signup and do a Letter of Intent (LOI) - you can just sign one with yourself to try it (use the same email, but use a slightly different name so you can tell the parties apart).
Thanks for taking a look!
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#3Hey HN! we created a better way to handle the most common paperwork needed by startups. Just sync a Dropbox folder with us and we’ll take care of all the legal paperwork for NDAs, Contractor agreements and LOIs and organize it in that folder automatically for you. We’re really looking for feedback on the flow and so any feedback is much appreciated. The best way to jump right in is to go through signup and do a Lette…
IMHO, your page is badly missing legal information like a privacy policy
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#4Hey HN! we created a better way to handle the most common paperwork needed by startups. Just sync a Dropbox folder with us and we’ll take care of all the legal paperwork for NDAs, Contractor agreements and LOIs and organize it in that folder automatically for you. We’re really looking for feedback on the flow and so any feedback is much appreciated. The best way to jump right in is to go through signup and do a Lette…
IMHO, your page is badly missing legal information like a privacy policy
That's correct, we're working on getting that up. Thanks for pointing that out. Right now we're mainly just looking for feedback on whether this is something that people might find useful.
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#5My initial thought was seems like a useful product, my second thought was legal documents seem like the kind of thing that almost always require a manual overview to make sure everything is in order.
So my question would be something along the line of how do you address this seemingly unavoidable necessity?
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#6My initial thought was seems like a useful product, my second thought was legal documents seem like the kind of thing that almost always require a manual overview to make sure everything is in order. So my question would be something along the line of how do you address this seemingly unavoidable necessity?
That's where Dropbox is really cool actually. They have a bunch of great collaboration tools. The way we handle it is we do all the admin stuff - collecting info, filling in the docs, putting in tags for e-signatures - then we drop it in a dropbox folder so that humans can edit the document. When the humans are done editing, just tell Ironclad to pick it back up and we'll go from there :)
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#7My initial thought was seems like a useful product, my second thought was legal documents seem like the kind of thing that almost always require a manual overview to make sure everything is in order. So my question would be something along the line of how do you address this seemingly unavoidable necessity?
That's where Dropbox is really cool actually. They have a bunch of great collaboration tools. The way we handle it is we do all the admin stuff - collecting info, filling in the docs, putting in tags for e-signatures - then we drop it in a dropbox folder so that humans can edit the document. When the humans are done editing, just tell Ironclad to pick it back up and we'll go from there :)
Again sounds interesting and (not necessarily in a negative way) kinda puts me in the mind of a process server/courier could be useful I'll keep it in mind
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's where Dropbox is really cool actually. They have a bunch of great collaboration tools. The way we handle it is we do all the admin stuff - collecting info, filling in the docs, putting in tags for e-signatures - then we drop it in a dropbox folder so that humans can edit the document. When the humans are done editing, just tell Ironclad to pick it back up and we'll go from there :)
Again sounds interesting and (not necessarily in a negative way) kinda puts me in the mind of a process server/courier could be useful I'll keep it in mind
Awesome, thanks for checking it out and for the feedback! This kind of stuff is great.
I think the process server / courier is an interesting analogy. We're definitely not trying to replace lawyers here, but we do want to separate out the admin work and make the whole process more efficient.
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#9At last, the startup web site which gives no information.
"The best way to jump right in is to go through signup". Wrong answer.
Do you have a legal opinion that you are not engaged in the unauthorized practice of law? LegalZoom had a lot of trouble with that.[1] Even after some wins in court, they operate only in 41 US states, and have lawyers and paralegals on staff.
Badly drafted contracts can cause big trouble later. You need to go to a lot of effort to convince customers you know what you're doing.
[1] http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/latest_legal_vict...
Re: Show HN: Ironclad – an automated legal assistant
#10At last, the startup web site which gives no information. "The best way to jump right in is to go through signup". Wrong answer. Do you have a legal opinion that you are not engaged in the unauthorized practice of law? LegalZoom had a lot of trouble with that.[1] Even after some wins in court, they operate only in 41 US states, and have lawyers and paralegals on staff. Badly drafted contracts can cause big trouble la…
Hey John, thanks for your comments. Really appreciate you taking a look and I hear your points. Your question is probably rhetorical, but we're certainly not trying to give legal advice here (and we've been careful to build this in a way that it's clearly an admin tool and not a replacement for legal advice). As far as the "jump right in goes" - just trying to fit in to the spirit of a Show HN and have people play around with something we've built.