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Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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Same five physicists who sent a letter on 29 October 2009 to all 100 US Senators titled "A Gaggle is not a Consensus", which was several months after their letter titled "TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES: YOU ARE BEING DECEIVED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING." Signed Bob Austin (self-described as "alarmist skeptic" in posting from 2009/08/14), Will Happer ("reportedly fired by former Vice President Al Gore in 1993 for failing to adhere to Gore’s scientific views"), and others I don't care to look up.

There's nothing new here. They already had skin in this game.

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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signed:

  Bob Austin, Professor of Physics, Princeton
  Hal Lewis, emeritus Professor of Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara
  Will Happer, Professor of Physics, Princeton
  Larry Gould, Professor of Physics, Hartford
  Roger Cohen, former Manager, Strategic Planning, ExxonMobil

'One of these four is not like the others....'

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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From the physicists' letter:

"By now everyone has heard of what has come to be known as ClimateGate, which was and is an international scientific fraud, the worst any of us have seen in our cumulative 223 years of APS membership. For those who have missed the news we recommend the excellent summary article by Richard Lindzen in the November 30 edition of the Wall Street journal, entitled 'The Climate Science isn’t Settled,' for a balanced account of the situation. It was written by a scientist of unquestioned authority and integrity. ..."

"The principals in this escapade have not denied what they did, but have sought to dismiss it by saying that it is normal practice among scientists. You know and we know that that is simply untrue. Physicists are not expected to cheat."

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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Same five physicists who sent a letter on 29 October 2009 to all 100 US Senators titled "A Gaggle is not a Consensus", which was several months after their letter titled "TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES: YOU ARE BEING DECEIVED ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING." Signed Bob Austin (self-described as "alarmist skeptic" in posting from 2009/08/14), Will Happer ("reportedly fired by former Vice President Al Gore in 1993 for fail…

Interesting. Thank you for sharing.

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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signed: Bob Austin, Professor of Physics, Princeton Hal Lewis, emeritus Professor of Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara Will Happer, Professor of Physics, Princeton Larry Gould, Professor of Physics, Hartford Roger Cohen, former Manager, Strategic Planning, ExxonMobil 'One of these four is not like the others....'

"Roger W. Cohen holds a Ph.D. in physics and is a former Manager of Strategic Planning and Programs for ExxonMobil Research and Engineering Co. He has more than forty years experience in the electronics and energy industries. He is a recent recipient of the Otto Schade Prize for Image Quality for research leading to improved digital television, work that was also recognized by an Emmy in 2000. He is currently working with a group of partners on developing and commercializing a technology for extracting carbon dioxide from the air. Roger lives in Durango ..."

Aspen Global Change Institute website, http://www.agci.org/programs/past_workshop_participants/abou...

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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ExxonMobil. Mm.

What we're seeing is that there is politics in science, like everything else that people do.

If a former association with ExxonMobil by one of the signatories casts doubt on the motivations of these scientists, then you have to apply the same standard to scientists who are affiliated with or have taking funding from any so-called "green energy" businesses or social progressive political groups

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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I find it incredulous that people seem to believe that the entire global warming case rests on the results of a single research group.

They just talked about this on NPR and other climate researchers interviewed say this is a sad case of selective quotation and distortion of facts on the part of the critics. In addition, it appears the leak happened months ago but nothing was made public until now, coincidentally just before the Copenhagen meeting.

Re: Physicists Ask American Physical Society to Rescind Statement on Global Warming

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signed: Bob Austin, Professor of Physics, Princeton Hal Lewis, emeritus Professor of Physics, University of California, Santa Barbara Will Happer, Professor of Physics, Princeton Larry Gould, Professor of Physics, Hartford Roger Cohen, former Manager, Strategic Planning, ExxonMobil 'One of these four is not like the others....'

If global warming is real, ExxonMobil still has a business -- and everyone who disagrees with these guys is out of a job. If you're just looking at who gets the largest fraction of their income from their beliefs about global warming, it's pretty easy to conclude that the climate scientists have the biggest incentive to lie.

Which illustrates why you shouldn't think that way! When an actor says that vaccines cause autism, the actor is not risking very much; when a doctor denies it, the doctor's livelihood is often at stake. But the doctors, in this case, are right.

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