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How private is your email? Not very

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Re: How private is your email? Not very

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Do iPhone/US Gmail users really see ads in Gmail on their mobile devices? Not sure whether it's because of our privacy laws here in Germany, but I've only ever seen the (quite general) ads on the webinterface where I've opted out of profiled ads I guess.

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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email is still federated, I can start my own email system.. my friends can start their own.

assuming we have a good chain of trust between us, all communications are secure.

You know what you're signing up for with google, the services they provide are not the product.. you are..

everyone on hackernews knows this, surely?

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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post #3

email is still federated, I can start my own email system.. my friends can start their own. assuming we have a good chain of trust between us, all communications are secure. You know what you're signing up for with google, the services they provide are not the product.. you are.. everyone on hackernews knows this, surely?

I agree. Not sure what's new here. However, I still think the general public has no sense of how email works and possibly assumes all of their email is private?

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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post #2

Do iPhone/US Gmail users really see ads in Gmail on their mobile devices? Not sure whether it's because of our privacy laws here in Germany, but I've only ever seen the (quite general) ads on the webinterface where I've opted out of profiled ads I guess.

UK, iPhone 4s, GMail app.

You have to go to the promotions tab to see the ads. Ads don't appear in the other tabs.

http://imgur.com/FtxsmhA

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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> Other than rolling our own email server, another solution is to use paid email alternatives ...

Actually there are a lot of very strong free alternatives which seeks to protect privacy and security of the users.

ProtonMail [1] is a very promising one, for example. The entire mailboxes of the users are encrypted so that even the sysadmins cannot read them.

And there are the likes of Riseup [2] and autistici [3], providing e-mail and other web services for activists, they intentionally refuse to provide data about the users when requested.

And there is Mailpile [4] project as a client.

All of them run on donations.

It also is good to observe after Snowden that it progressively becomes a common knowledge that "if a product is free, you are the product".

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[1]: https://protonmail.ch

[2]: https://riseup.net

[3]: http://www.autistici.org/en/index.html

[4]: https://www.mailpile.is

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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Uhg. It's 2015 and there are still blog articles (honestly) asking this?

"It’s not entirely clear if this only applies to the free Gmail offering or also the Google Business App offering."

https://support.google.com/work/answer/6056650?hl=en

There is absolutely no value in this article, other than self-promotion.

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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To summarize the blog post- The solution to free email is paid email. And solution to email clients is to read privacy policy.

It would be a cool post in 2007 when Google described their ad policy for gmail, and we gladly accepted that. As of 2014, in post-Snowden era, the simplest solution to security and privacy is- end to end encryption. Or, if you have something better in your bag...

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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It’s not entirely clear if this only applies to the free Gmail offering or also the Google Business App offering.

This is entirely clear:

No. There are no ads in Google Apps Services or Google Cloud Platform, and we have no plans to change this in the future. We do not scan for advertising purposes in Gmail or other Google Apps services. Google does not collect or use data in Google Apps services for advertising purposes. The situation is different for our free offerings and the consumer space.

Source: https://support.google.com/work/answer/6056650?hl=en

Re: How private is your email? Not very

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post #3

email is still federated, I can start my own email system.. my friends can start their own. assuming we have a good chain of trust between us, all communications are secure. You know what you're signing up for with google, the services they provide are not the product.. you are.. everyone on hackernews knows this, surely?

> assuming we have a good chain of trust between us, all communications are secure.

That is not correct - an SMTP server will deliver email to another SMTP server in the clear [1]. Your ISP or the ISP that the remote SMTP server is using can read it. Even then - running an email server from home has certain issues such as port 25 inbound blocked, or most email servers will drop email from residential IPs.

The only way to make sure communication is secure is to use an email certificate with encryption or GPG. These would have 2 benefits: the email would verify who it came from (email can be easily forged) and the contents would be encrypted.

[1] http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/12087/if-i-send-...

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