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Hellenism and the History of Homosexuality

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If I recall my humsex intro class, there were three main types, greco-roman, Polynesian and modern. I don't recall the differences completely, but they all differ and aren't all that alike with respect to relationship dynamics or purpose.

Anyhoo, interesting none the less.

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[Greek and Latin] were languages that wives and servants could not understand, and therefore in which secrets were told. ... Women’s lack of Greek and Latin — in their own sex-segregated schools, they were taught French and German — kept them out of the universities and learned society.

How obvious is that, once someone points it out?

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[Greek and Latin] were languages that wives and servants could not understand, and therefore in which secrets were told. ... Women’s lack of Greek and Latin — in their own sex-segregated schools, they were taught French and German — kept them out of the universities and learned society. How obvious is that, once someone points it out?

Yet society did not learn:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2957178/Women-earn-m...

“Official data found full-time women earned more than their male colleagues in their 20s and early 30s.”

http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/jan/21/gender-gap-...

“Women accepted to study at university outnumbered men by record levels last year ... the gap has widened to nearly 58,000 ...”

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[Greek and Latin] were languages that wives and servants could not understand, and therefore in which secrets were told. ... Women’s lack of Greek and Latin — in their own sex-segregated schools, they were taught French and German — kept them out of the universities and learned society. How obvious is that, once someone points it out?

Too obvious, I think. There were always a small number of women who had mastered Greek and Latin--Thomas More taught his daughter Margaret those languages, and one of her or anyway his female descendants, translated his Latin works in to English. In Samuel Johnson's time, a woman brought out a well regarded translation of Tacitus.

Originally the purpose of Latin and Greek in the European curriculum was to prepare students for the professions, including the clerical, which were closed to women. So why would the schoolmasters teach them Latin and Greek.

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I miss both the "hacker" and "news" angle of this one. And yes, this is meta, so I fully expect to get downvoted.

You know the usual refrain, "or something interesting to hackers."

I can't for the life of me think why this would be interesting to hackers, but somebody out there felt we should see this.

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I miss both the "hacker" and "news" angle of this one. And yes, this is meta, so I fully expect to get downvoted.

You know the usual refrain, "or something interesting to hackers." I can't for the life of me think why this would be interesting to hackers, but somebody out there felt we should see this.

And yet Rand Paul running the first ever hackathon for a US presidential candidate was "too political" to be interesting for hackers.