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Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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They don't fluoridate the water here in Portland, OR. Compared to other parts of the country where I've lived, the difference in people's teeth is pretty shocking. I haven't heard any alternative hypothesis that would explain this difference better than the lack of fluoridation here. As I understand the article, they're saying that they couldn't find rigorous studies demonstrating the beneficial effects of fluoride.…

There's too much inertia in favor of fluoride being beneficial for any serious researcher to risk their credibility. Everyone "knows" fluoride makes teeth stronger, like lettuce being healthy to eat, or global warming is human-caused.

In fact, even discussing the possibility is too much for most people to entertain. They think you're wasting their time with fantasy and falsehood, like conspiracy theorists always do. Fluoride being bad for teeth is as believable as airliners dropping chemtrails everywhere, or jet fuel not "spheroiding" steel after hours of heating.

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Can we change the link to the actual Cochrane review which does provide a plain language interpretation of the results? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD010856...

Here's an anchor link directly to the plan language summary. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD010856...

Re: Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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They don't fluoridate the water here in Portland, OR. Compared to other parts of the country where I've lived, the difference in people's teeth is pretty shocking. I haven't heard any alternative hypothesis that would explain this difference better than the lack of fluoridation here. As I understand the article, they're saying that they couldn't find rigorous studies demonstrating the beneficial effects of fluoride.…

With over half of people currently in the Portland metro area having been born elsewhere, it would be hard to sort out whether cavities were the result of fluoride deficiency or some sort of selection bias in who chooses to live there. I never noticed a lot of fillings when I lived in Portland, but then I wasn't looking inside people's mouths.

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Just so everyone is clear: this review found that there is little evidence that water fluoridation has any benefits. It does not dispute that fluoride in toothpaste reduces tooth decay. > Studies that attest to the effectiveness of fluoridation were generally done before the widespread usage of fluoride-containing dental products like rinses and toothpastes in the 1970s and later, according to the recent Cochrane stu…

Unfortunately, it's not accurate to say there is no evidence. There is evidence, it's just old evidence. For some reason, Newsweek decided to focus on the fact that there is no evidence that fluoridation is helpful for adults, and that the evidence for children is almost all from before 1975. That is important since behaviors may have changed post-1975.

The "Plain language summary" from the authors - their words, so this is the authors of the study synthesizing their conclusions for a lay audience - is clear:

Data suggest that the introduction of water fluoridation resulted in a 35% reduction in decayed, missing or filled baby teeth and a 26% reduction in decayed, missing or filled permanent teeth. It also increased the percentage of children with no decay by 15%. Although these results indicate that water fluoridation is effective at reducing levels of tooth decay in children's baby and permanent teeth, the applicability of the results to current lifestyles is unclear because the majority of the studies were conducted before fluoride toothpastes and the other preventative meaures were widely used in many communities around the world.

There was insufficient information available to find out whether the introduction of a water fluoridation programme changed existing differences in tooth decay across socioeconomic groups.

There was insufficient information available to understand the effect of stopping water fluoridation programmes on tooth decay.

No studies met the review’s inclusion criteria that investigated the effectiveness of water fluoridation for preventing tooth decay in adults, rather than children.

This is from http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD010856.... Thanks to HN user giarc (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9807427) for pointing it out.

Re: Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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They don't fluoridate the water here in Portland, OR. Compared to other parts of the country where I've lived, the difference in people's teeth is pretty shocking. I haven't heard any alternative hypothesis that would explain this difference better than the lack of fluoridation here. As I understand the article, they're saying that they couldn't find rigorous studies demonstrating the beneficial effects of fluoride.…

How many dentists per capita are there in Portland compared to similar cities.

Edit, I checked. It seems that it might be higher than average.

Re: Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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post #29

Can we change the link to the actual Cochrane review which does provide a plain language interpretation of the results? http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD010856...

The Newsweek article contains considerable additional reporting, and does not appear (at first glance) to distort what the Cochrane review says. Unless that's wrong, I don't think we need to swap the URL.

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From what I've read, we've already identified the specific bacteria responsible for tooth decay [1], but there seems to have no interest in developing treatments based on that insight. Instead we're supposed to essentially sterilize our mouths and remineralize our teeth (which is something saliva does naturally) with topical fluoride twice a day. My cat has never brushed her teeth, and they're fine, presumably becaus…

Thy made a genetically modified bacteria that doesn't produce lactic acid, and early trials seemed promising. But the FDA won't approve it. Also there are some other approaches to vaccinating against it.

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post #48

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

Mandrake, have you ever seen a Commie drink a glass of water?
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