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Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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Re: Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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Did anyone expect it to do so? Fluorine production was a proxy for uranium production if the only use for fluorine was for uranium production. Couldn't have the Soviets knowing how many atom bombs we were building, so we needed to use it for something else too. Something so massive that it would make it impossible to calculate how much was used for nukes. And so we put it in the water supply as an additive.

Interesting, do you have a citation for this one? It reminds me of the "carrots help you see better" myth that began as WWII propaganda [1] as a cover for radar and has been very persistent since.

[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/20...

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Did anyone expect it to do so? Fluorine production was a proxy for uranium production if the only use for fluorine was for uranium production. Couldn't have the Soviets knowing how many atom bombs we were building, so we needed to use it for something else too. Something so massive that it would make it impossible to calculate how much was used for nukes. And so we put it in the water supply as an additive.

Mandrake, have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water?

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Did anyone expect it to do so? Fluorine production was a proxy for uranium production if the only use for fluorine was for uranium production. Couldn't have the Soviets knowing how many atom bombs we were building, so we needed to use it for something else too. Something so massive that it would make it impossible to calculate how much was used for nukes. And so we put it in the water supply as an additive.

Huh? Fluorine's oldest and most common industrial use is in steelmaking. It is also used heavily in refrigerants.

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Did anyone expect it to do so? Fluorine production was a proxy for uranium production if the only use for fluorine was for uranium production. Couldn't have the Soviets knowing how many atom bombs we were building, so we needed to use it for something else too. Something so massive that it would make it impossible to calculate how much was used for nukes. And so we put it in the water supply as an additive.

According to the Fluorine Deception, they needed a way to get rid of the effluent so they made it a health product rather than toxic waste. That book however has been dismissed by most supporters of fluoridation as written by a nutbar.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Fluoride-Deception-Christopher-Bry...

"Concerns over fluoridated drinking water have long been derided as the obsession of McCarthyite cranks. But this muckraking j’accuse asserts that fluoride is indeed a dire threat to public health, one foisted upon the nation by a vast conspiracy—not of Communist agents, but of our very own military-industrial complex. Investigative reporter Bryson revisits the decades-long controversy, drawing on mountains of scientific studies, some unearthed from secret archives of government and corporate laboratories, to question the effects of fluoride and the motives of its leading advocates. The efficacy of fluoridated drinking water in preventing tooth decay, he contends, is dubious. Fluoride in its many forms may be one of the most toxic of industrial pollutants, and Bryson cites scientific analyses linking fluoridated drinking water to bone deformities, hyperactivity and a host of other complaints. The post-war campaign to fluoridate drinking water, he claims, was less a public health innovation than a public relations ploy sponsored by industrial users of fluoride—including the government’s nuclear weapons program. Legendary spin doctors like Edward Bernays exploited the tenuous link between dental hygiene and fluoridation to create markets to stimulate fluoride production and to prove the innocuousness of fluoride compounds, thereby heading off lawsuits by factory workers and others poisoned by industrial fluoride pollution. Bryson marshals an impressive amount of research to demonstrate fluoride’s harmfulness, the ties between leading fluoride researchers and the corporations who funded and benefited from their research, and what he says is the duplicity with which fluoridation was sold to the people. The result is a compelling challenge to the reigning dental orthodoxy, which should provoke renewed scientific scrutiny and public debate."

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Just so everyone is clear: this review found that there is little evidence that water fluoridation has any benefits. It does not dispute that fluoride in toothpaste reduces tooth decay. > Studies that attest to the effectiveness of fluoridation were generally done before the widespread usage of fluoride-containing dental products like rinses and toothpastes in the 1970s and later, according to the recent Cochrane stu…

The theory I've encountered is that fluoridation previously had an impact on cavity-prevention before people were actually brushing their teeth with fluoridated toothpaste. Now that toothbrushing is much more common, the impact has waned.

Late edit;

Here's a look at toothbrushing frequency in Europe by country from 1994 - 2010:

http://i.imgur.com/VVBldAy.jpg

Just imagine how much improvement you'd see from if the chart started in the 1940's and 1950's when many cities began fluoridating their water supplies. Not to mention that many early toothpastes were often ineffective at preventing cavities by primarily relying on baking soda and peroxide.

(Full brushing frequency study: http://eurpub.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/suppl_2/20 )

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Harvard study finding fluoride in water does negatively impact childhood development: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/fluoride-childrens...

It should be noted that the negative effects were found in areas with much higher levels of fluoridation (i.e. areas of China with naturally occurring fluoride in groundwater) than are typical in the US. There wasn't enough information to draw conclusions about US fluoridation levels.

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Did anyone expect it to do so? Fluorine production was a proxy for uranium production if the only use for fluorine was for uranium production. Couldn't have the Soviets knowing how many atom bombs we were building, so we needed to use it for something else too. Something so massive that it would make it impossible to calculate how much was used for nukes. And so we put it in the water supply as an additive.

According to the Fluorine Deception, they needed a way to get rid of the effluent so they made it a health product rather than toxic waste. That book however has been dismissed by most supporters of fluoridation as written by a nutbar. http://www.amazon.com/The-Fluoride-Deception-Christopher-Bry... "Concerns over fluoridated drinking water have long been derided as the obsession of McCarthyite cranks. But this muckra…

> affluent

effluent

Re: Water Fluoridation May Not Prevent Cavities, Scientific Review Shows

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Did anyone expect it to do so? Fluorine production was a proxy for uranium production if the only use for fluorine was for uranium production. Couldn't have the Soviets knowing how many atom bombs we were building, so we needed to use it for something else too. Something so massive that it would make it impossible to calculate how much was used for nukes. And so we put it in the water supply as an additive.

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