"Mr. Frind says that close to 50,000 new photos come in every day, each one of which needs to be checked to verify that it is an actual person and that it does not not contain nudity."
of all the places for a double negative...
From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
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Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#22File under: people with no taste who don't really deserve to be successful. Even if you don't think "doesn't deserve" applies, still file under no taste. If you want to be tasteless and really big, try getting an executive position in Wal-Mart or something.
Taste is not universal. This not PC, but there is a correlation between class and taste in design. The clean, uncluttered design appeals to the 'elite', but the masses just have different taste in things. There are reasons why CNN and Fox News look the way they do. http://www.graphpaper.com/2006/09-04_class-and-web-design-pa...
CNN.com actually is a beautiful site.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#23I think you guys should give him a bit more credit. True, the interface is horrible, and yes, luck was definitely involved, but when you look beyond that, he managed to deliver a service that, in my opinion, filled the needs of many - a completely free of charge dating site. Many other dating sites are extremely limiting with respects to being able to contact people, often times not even letting users message each ot…
True. The reason I so deeply disrespect the man, though, is because with that 10 million dollars he has done absolutely nothing to advance the experience of people on his site.
It's also possible that he could take his huge customer base and monetize it more effectively by introducing new features and making the experience better. But he's so lazy/apathetic that he wont even write a script to keep the pictures the right aspect ratio.
Sure he makes 10 million dollars a year, he provides a great service, etc, but in the end he's not really contributing anything to society but a well-baked cake with dog shit frosting.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Taste is not universal. This not PC, but there is a correlation between class and taste in design. The clean, uncluttered design appeals to the 'elite', but the masses just have different taste in things. There are reasons why CNN and Fox News look the way they do. http://www.graphpaper.com/2006/09-04_class-and-web-design-pa...
CNN.com actually is a beautiful site.
It is beautiful - part of my point.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#25I think you guys should give him a bit more credit. True, the interface is horrible, and yes, luck was definitely involved, but when you look beyond that, he managed to deliver a service that, in my opinion, filled the needs of many - a completely free of charge dating site. Many other dating sites are extremely limiting with respects to being able to contact people, often times not even letting users message each ot…
I think we're too quick to attribute what we don't understand to just plain luck. I wouldn't underestimate Markus - running a site with 300MM page views per month single handedly is pretty impressive. One quick observation: it's not an accident that some of the ugliest websites on the internet (MySpace, Craigslist) are also the most popular.
it's not an accident that some of the ugliest websites on the internet (MySpace, Craigslist) are also the most popular.
This is way too simple to be true. Other sites, like Google, Flickr and the pre-F8 Facebook, made clean design a virtue.
MySpace is about user self-expression, especially for teenagers. Teenage bedrooms don't look like House Beautiful. Also, teenagers have a proven ability to extract signal from greater noise (no really, look it up; they really can read text on wacky complex backgrounds much better than oldsters). So their aesthetics are somewhat different.
Craigslist is not particularly pretty but the usability is very good. Everything is there for an obvious reason. And regarding the rather "default" look -- not only does this save on bandwidth, it actually helps usability. Designers should remember that if they even make non-underlined or non-blue links, they just lost a lot of unsophisticated users.
There's very little the user needs to understand, few barriers to posting or reading, and pages load really quickly. The Craigslist people are the masters of giving you 80% of the value for about 10% coding effort and 1% user effort.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think we're too quick to attribute what we don't understand to just plain luck. I wouldn't underestimate Markus - running a site with 300MM page views per month single handedly is pretty impressive. One quick observation: it's not an accident that some of the ugliest websites on the internet (MySpace, Craigslist) are also the most popular.
it's not an accident that some of the ugliest websites on the internet (MySpace, Craigslist) are also the most popular. This is way too simple to be true. Other sites, like Google, Flickr and the pre-F8 Facebook, made clean design a virtue. MySpace is about user self-expression, especially for teenagers. Teenage bedrooms don't look like House Beautiful. Also, teenagers have a proven ability to extract signal from gre…
You are 100% correct. I didn't point out that that 'ugliness' is not universal, and can co-exist with great usability.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#27I think you guys should give him a bit more credit. True, the interface is horrible, and yes, luck was definitely involved, but when you look beyond that, he managed to deliver a service that, in my opinion, filled the needs of many - a completely free of charge dating site. Many other dating sites are extremely limiting with respects to being able to contact people, often times not even letting users message each ot…
I think we're too quick to attribute what we don't understand to just plain luck. I wouldn't underestimate Markus - running a site with 300MM page views per month single handedly is pretty impressive. One quick observation: it's not an accident that some of the ugliest websites on the internet (MySpace, Craigslist) are also the most popular.
> it's not an accident that some of the ugliest websites [...] are also the most popular.
It just indicates that our sense of beauty is broken. Or more accurately, hasn't adapted for web pages evaluation yet.
My guess is that we use, to judge web pages, a sense of beauty that we developed for static graphic arts: painting, typography, advertising etc. It fails to take key points into account: a site's dynamic nature, its complex structure, its usability. My usual experience is that many sites which look shiny on screenshots are a PITA to actually use.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#28I think you guys should give him a bit more credit. True, the interface is horrible, and yes, luck was definitely involved, but when you look beyond that, he managed to deliver a service that, in my opinion, filled the needs of many - a completely free of charge dating site. Many other dating sites are extremely limiting with respects to being able to contact people, often times not even letting users message each ot…
True. The reason I so deeply disrespect the man, though, is because with that 10 million dollars he has done absolutely nothing to advance the experience of people on his site. It's also possible that he could take his huge customer base and monetize it more effectively by introducing new features and making the experience better. But he's so lazy/apathetic that he wont even write a script to keep the pictures the ri…
"The reason I so deeply disrespect the man, though, is because with that 10 million dollars he has done absolutely nothing to advance the experience of people on his site."
So why don't you do something about it? Start a company to right his wrong and profit from it.
Fact is that he is smart and successful and his user base speaks volumes for his contribution to society but he does everything WRONG for a YC inspired/funded startup:
1. No Co-founder
2. Bad design
3. Doesn't use Apple products but MS.
4. Isn't from/hasn't moved to Silicon Valley.
etc.
Re: From 10 Hours a Week, $10 Million a Year - Plenty of Fish
#29I think you guys should give him a bit more credit. True, the interface is horrible, and yes, luck was definitely involved, but when you look beyond that, he managed to deliver a service that, in my opinion, filled the needs of many - a completely free of charge dating site. Many other dating sites are extremely limiting with respects to being able to contact people, often times not even letting users message each ot…
True. The reason I so deeply disrespect the man, though, is because with that 10 million dollars he has done absolutely nothing to advance the experience of people on his site. It's also possible that he could take his huge customer base and monetize it more effectively by introducing new features and making the experience better. But he's so lazy/apathetic that he wont even write a script to keep the pictures the ri…
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