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Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules
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#952On my birthday in April, my partner Andrew proposed to me in a Minion mascot costume, handing me a solid gold Ring of Power from Lord of the Rings, which was set into a Chicken McNugget, while a live vocalist sang "I Say a Little Prayer for You." When we get married I will feel so grateful to have fallen in love in the present.
That's beautiful :)
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#953My goodness, the barely-concealed hate in this is shocking. It's a very, very sad thing these people do. And I can't help but find "black robes" a bit telling, although maybe that's just some sort of bias or psychological effect.
http://www.afa.net/the-stand/government/rainbow-jihadists-of...
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That would require humans to have existed before religion, which is frankly quite ridiculous.
You don't think that there were humans that existed before any form of codified spirituality? I'd be willing to believe that explicit ritual bonding (marriage) didn't predate religion, but find it hard to believe that the first words we uttered went along with some sort of priestly social class or referenceable rules for living.
I don't know what the current state of research on this is, but I find it entirely plausible that rituals and social control existed before language.
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I blame Glee. I say that a bit tongue-in-cheek but it definitely helps to have gay culture and gay icons just out there in the world, melded seamlessly with the rest of society. This includes things like trashy teen comedies and musicals and what not. Having equal marriage rights is just one more step in the right direction of having a more tolerant, loving earth society.
I blame the Dean, although it's been established he's not gay, that's putting him in a box, he's much more...he's a politician.
He's now known as Archchancellor Henry, you know...
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#956Well, I know I'm probably a minority in saying this, but I'm disappointed - not because I don't think everyone should have access to the government rights attached to marriage, but because it seems our country doesn't actually want to fix problems at the root. What is the root problem? People on both sides of the debate agree (if given the option) that the government probably never should have messed with marriage, a…
As far as I can tell, on a societal level incremental change is the only sort of change that tends to happen. On a larger time-frame bigger shifts tends to come about as the result of lots of incremental changes.
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#957Earlier quoted context omitted.
Legally, you are right. Morally and practically, I'm not so sure. Few hearts and minds are changed as a result of the supreme court's rulings, just the code powering the justice system. Convincing 5 of the top judges is easy compared to convincing the populace, and the latter is more important for the long term goals of equality. Federally legislated social change pushes back the more important goals of social equali…
> Convincing 5 of the top judges is easy compared to convincing the populace About 60% of US residents now support gay marriage and consider it a right, according to the polls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_of_same-sex_mar...
I'd be curious how that's distributed. Also, people lie on polls, for the similar reasons as they do if you ask them "are you racist?"
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#959Earlier quoted context omitted.
What? That's exactly the opposite of what parent is suggesting (if I understood correctly): marriage should be a private or religious matter and not a legal institution. Also, non religious marriage has been going on for a long time in many countries (e.g. China) and I don't think France is a notable pioneer in that area.
Well the point is that the state has to do _something_ since some sort of legal status is required for many purposes in most countries. The described scenario in France means that you can have a religious marriage if you so wish; an official contract-signing 'event' out of necessity. Makes sense IMO - not a government's job to tell a church who is or isn't allowed to marry under their religion.
since some sort of legal status is required for many
purposes in most countries
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It doesn't matter who invented it. It matters what it is. And marriage is fundamentally a government institution. It concerns laws and legally granted privileges. If there's a sacred component, let the churches keep that part, but that's not what the SCOTUS ruled on, and it's not what millions across the country have been demanding for decades.
theres really nothing to it that couldn't be replaced by a contract.
Currently marriage involves third parties treating couples differently because they're married. That requires a standardized status and seems tricky to do with contract.
For example: different taxation, different financial aid, etc.
You could get rid of all these, but that is a big change.