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To some that question is the same as "Why don't you plan on being a billionaire?"
The more interesting question is: how has one traversed their entire life up to gainful employment and has no friends? This seems to be the more telling question.
The Lonely End: in aging Japan, thousands die alone and unnoticed
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikata_ga_nai
I lived in Japan for two years, and studied the language, and it was amazing how that sentence always brought any discussion to a conclusion. Grammatically, its negation would be "Shikata ga aru", but I never heard this said once.
The counter-idiom, if you will, to "nothing can be done" might be "where there is a will, there is a way":
意志のあるところには方法がある。
If someone says しょうがない or しかたがない, and you don't agree, that might be the thing.
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#63Sad but not uncommon I think. There was a guy who had a radio show that interviewed people with odd jobs. One such jobs was sort of like Toru's but was "special cleaning". Basically the guy started a business to clean up crime scenes. But found that most of his business came from landlords and others discovering deceased elders in their rooms. His suggestion was to crawl your grandparents from time to time to say hi.…
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#64My wife is a hospice nurse here in Japan visiting terminally ill patients at their homes. She comes home with many different stories. Some people are incredibly wealthy but their family doesn't want anything to do with them so they basically wait to die alone. Some people are poor and mentally ill and are basically living in dumps with rodents running around. Some people do have good situations in which they are care…
@timhon, I meant as a society, why not invest in elderly communities. Their pop is only going to get older, so it behooves them to address this option.
As, a side note, there is a curious phenomenon of relatives going along with the rouse of their dead elders living so they can cash their checks. Seems to be in the news on occasion.
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#65> His epiphany came when his current partner told him how she had lost her grandmother. Unlike Koremura’s loss, her grandmother had died alone—a kodokushi. It was seeing the deep regret in her, and accepting his own ennui, that made Koremura finally take action. He left his job as a stockbroker and set up his own removal company dedicated to the cleanup of kodokushi victims. He wanted to give something back to the ge…
Japan is incredibly stubborn and ignorant when it comes to addressing core social and psychological problems in their society. It isn't even recognized by most of the population so when people begin to complain of their own social issues or depression, people around them will slowly distance themselves from that person. As a result, most people will choose to hide their issues until it is unbearable. At the point the…
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#66My wife is a hospice nurse here in Japan visiting terminally ill patients at their homes. She comes home with many different stories. Some people are incredibly wealthy but their family doesn't want anything to do with them so they basically wait to die alone. Some people are poor and mentally ill and are basically living in dumps with rodents running around. Some people do have good situations in which they are care…
Instead of the elderly living in homes/apartments by themselves, why not try to get them to live in elderly communities where they can engage with other elderpeople and have caregivers oversee their journey into eol. @timhon, I meant as a society, why not invest in elderly communities. Their pop is only going to get older, so it behooves them to address this option. As, a side note, there is a curious phenomenon of r…
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#67Sad but not uncommon I think. There was a guy who had a radio show that interviewed people with odd jobs. One such jobs was sort of like Toru's but was "special cleaning". Basically the guy started a business to clean up crime scenes. But found that most of his business came from landlords and others discovering deceased elders in their rooms. His suggestion was to crawl your grandparents from time to time to say hi.…
This could be addressed with monitoring. We have more and more alternatives to choose from. Either from external sensors (movement within the house, toilet usage, phone activity, bank account activity; or, alternatively, from devices worn by the people. This would be a great use of the IoT.
Recently my gran lost her heating & cooking for two days because her necklace went faulty and reported a false positive carbon monoxide incident.
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This could be addressed with monitoring. We have more and more alternatives to choose from. Either from external sensors (movement within the house, toilet usage, phone activity, bank account activity; or, alternatively, from devices worn by the people. This would be a great use of the IoT.
While I'm not saying no time monitoring, I would still prefer a visit from a human being. Recently my gran lost her heating & cooking for two days because her necklace went faulty and reported a false positive carbon monoxide incident.
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Japan is incredibly stubborn and ignorant when it comes to addressing core social and psychological problems in their society. It isn't even recognized by most of the population so when people begin to complain of their own social issues or depression, people around them will slowly distance themselves from that person. As a result, most people will choose to hide their issues until it is unbearable. At the point the…
How has your country (you must be American) distinguished itself by doing these same core social and psychological issues? Or are Americans stubborn and ignorant?
I was in hospital with my gran (born in 1922) in ICU (a pulse of 33bpm - and turns out she had kidney failure too), when alone with me she was gripping my hand and saying "this is the worst I have ever felt", when a few minutes later the doctor arrive d and asked "how are you feeling?" she replied "I'm fine thank you".
I think the current crop of younger people will be more vocal, if their sense of entitlement about their current lives is anything to go by.
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While I'm not saying no time monitoring, I would still prefer a visit from a human being. Recently my gran lost her heating & cooking for two days because her necklace went faulty and reported a false positive carbon monoxide incident.
Human contact is good, but you can't have person there 24x7, a monitor never tires, and you can address false positives by relying on multiple signals/sensors.