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Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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post #71

This is clickbait. Nevertheless, my first thought was "GitHub is much better and much much safer than anything Google can offer". Back in the day, were Microsoft to offer a competitor to a small company's product and my reaction would be: "They're dead in the water". Food for thought...

How is it much much safer?

In the sense that I can trust it to be around five years from now. Google has, today, a bad perception in terms of product lifetime.

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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post #147
post #92

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Right now we at GitLab offer Project Services http://doc.gitlab.com/ce/integration/README.html This enabled people to add new functions that are tested as part of the codebase so that plugins don't break on upgrades. Are there any plugins you would like to see? BTW We're considering renaming 'Project Services' to 'Add-ons'. Do you think that makes things clearer?

Thanks for the reply! I think Project Services makes sense. This was just me not reading the docs or researching this better. I'm going to look at adding some services later. Thanks for the information!

OK, thanks!

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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Post Snowden I'm looking to move away from cloud services and not entangle myself further.

I see this sentiment quite often, and I'm not really sure how to respond to it (other than the snarky, obvious "Enjoy your cave"). Hacker News is a cloud service---we share comments on news stories in a collaborative fashion. I assume this means something closer to "I don't want my personal, sensitive data hosted by anybody and I'm willing to pay for the inefficiency and inconvenience of only being able to access it…

You assume correctly.

Any service, especially served abroad like in the US, where I share any of my data, I no longer feel as good about using.

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

#155
post #18

My team has just started looking for a github replacement because the code review workflow is just not working for us, we need something with more structure. I think there's plenty of space for feature and price competition, especially for private repos where github's social network effects don't matter as much.

I'm the CEO of Atlassian (who run Bitbucket & Stash). Would love to get your feedback on what we can do to improve. We really pride ourselves on making products that have the right level of control in our products.

Or email me - scott atlassian.

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

#156
post #56

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check out stash by atlassian https://www.atlassian.com/software/stash

In my experience Stash is not much better. It has simple commenting on diffs, but we had to have a plugin to automatically "unapprove" everyone once a new commit was added to a PR. It's social aspects are no better than GitHub code comments either. I always found Crucible much nicer and it integrates w/ Stash decently, but I worry it and Fisheye are on the backburner at Atlassian.

What is it that you're after? You already know about Stash's plugin system that you can configure to do anything weird and wonderful (huge perk), but wondering if there is something we should bake into the core product?

(Atlassian CEO here)

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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post #91

Every IaaS provider (Google, Amazon, Azure) has added a code hosting service or will do so in the future. Having your code hosted here will increase lock-in which is the best way for the IaaS provider to increase margins in the future. However, code hosting is not the essence of that GitHub, BitBucket and we at GitLab offer. The essence is code collaboration: mentioning people, doing a code review, activity streams,…

> And I suspect that GitHub Atom is running in a web-browser so they can effortlessly offer it online in the future.

A note about atom ... It does not run in a web browser and it would be damn hard to port it to the web since it runs on Node. It uses chromium for displaying the DOM but is not in a browser.

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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post #156

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In my experience Stash is not much better. It has simple commenting on diffs, but we had to have a plugin to automatically "unapprove" everyone once a new commit was added to a PR. It's social aspects are no better than GitHub code comments either. I always found Crucible much nicer and it integrates w/ Stash decently, but I worry it and Fisheye are on the backburner at Atlassian.

What is it that you're after? You already know about Stash's plugin system that you can configure to do anything weird and wonderful (huge perk), but wondering if there is something we should bake into the core product? (Atlassian CEO here)

So glad you responded, thank you. I definitely have suggestions. Our devops team was going to remove Crucible/Fisheye and I gave them this non-exhaustive list of why I would like to keep those tools in conjunction with stash:

* Fisheye has crazy advanced searching (in commit messages, users, etc)

* Fisheye offers he ability to watch for changes on files and directories that happen in any branch

* Fisheye shows a file as it might look with all branches and tags together (though it doesn't always combine them well of course as might be expected w/out using the VCS's conflict resolution)

* Crucible shows you what changed since you last reviewed and has an awesome slider (though can be a bit buggy)

* Crucible live-notifies updates in the browser on changes

* Crucible offers reviews on patches to a repo that may not be committed

* Crucible differentiates comments and defects

* Crucible lets me see unread vs read comments on files

* Crucible lets me see the number of comments (read and unread) on in the file-list pane on the left before going to the file

I personally think all 3 tools serve different purposes. I understand the want to move away from Crucible/Fisheye which are older and predate Git which causes some issues. IMO, there is a big unsatisfied market for code review tooling right now. There is also a market (probably not as big) for intelligent searching and notifications across a repo.

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Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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post #156

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In my experience Stash is not much better. It has simple commenting on diffs, but we had to have a plugin to automatically "unapprove" everyone once a new commit was added to a PR. It's social aspects are no better than GitHub code comments either. I always found Crucible much nicer and it integrates w/ Stash decently, but I worry it and Fisheye are on the backburner at Atlassian.

What is it that you're after? You already know about Stash's plugin system that you can configure to do anything weird and wonderful (huge perk), but wondering if there is something we should bake into the core product? (Atlassian CEO here)

Just want to say thanks for creating an awesome suite of products that integrates nicely and seamlessly together.

Re: stash. It's by far the best code review product I've used. And I've tried plenty!

Re: Google has quietly launched a GitHub competitor

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post #156

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What is it that you're after? You already know about Stash's plugin system that you can configure to do anything weird and wonderful (huge perk), but wondering if there is something we should bake into the core product? (Atlassian CEO here)

Just want to say thanks for creating an awesome suite of products that integrates nicely and seamlessly together. Re: stash. It's by far the best code review product I've used. And I've tried plenty!

Hey Hasan, have you tried https://reviewable.io? I'd love to get your feedback / comparison with Stash if you have a moment! (It's not a direct competitor as it's specific to GitHub, but I'd love to know how it measures up against your favorite.) Thanks.
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