It seems like Facebook seems to be the one company developing a lot of the very interesting and useful tools for developers.
That is unnecessarily negative toward the efforts of literally everyone else.
Fighting spam with Haskell
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Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
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Did you use a particular framework? I've been greatly enjoying my 4th attempt at learning Haskell (I think only now am I seasoned enough to really get it ), and my general proof that I know something and can use it usefully is to develop a web app (as all apps are now anyways). However, I didn't find anything which looked like it had majority community buy-in unlike Rails/Sinatra/Flask et al.
Happstack, Snap, and Yesod are popular. I'm partial to Happstack because it doesn't use any wonky extensions like template Haskell. It's just a very straightforward, very fast webserver. It's also very agnostic of how you actually render your HTML, whether it's static serving or dynamic generation with Blaze-builder or something.
Template Haskell and QuasiQuoters are optional in Yesod too. The project scaffold you get when you run `yesod init` uses TH and QQ by default, but you don't have to use the scaffold:
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you use a particular framework? I've been greatly enjoying my 4th attempt at learning Haskell (I think only now am I seasoned enough to really get it ), and my general proof that I know something and can use it usefully is to develop a web app (as all apps are now anyways). However, I didn't find anything which looked like it had majority community buy-in unlike Rails/Sinatra/Flask et al.
Yesod is the most actively developed and popular web framework for Haskell.
Also the nice thing about Yesod, is the freely available online book[0].
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
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It really shows what an investment they are willing to make in the language. They aren't just training up internal engineers, they're bringing in some of the best in the community. I'm hugely excited that Facebook is making this investment and giving some of the developments back to the community. There are many smaller companies that would be interested in Haskell but don't have the resources or expertise to tackle…
One thing's for sure, Facebook staffing did an amazing job hiring Haskell devs ;-)
Bryan was acquhired and I think he hired Simon.
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
#45Facebook censors so much and swaps out links. I can't even post a link to https://scientificamerica.com . Their SSL cert is weak and should not be trusted. It is swapped out for phishing scams.
Facebook swaps out links to hide the referrer. It's for privacy.
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
#46For those not involved in the Haskell community, Simon Marlow worked full time on the GHC compiler and specifically run-time system for many years. Along with Simon Peyton-Jones, he's huge in the Haskell world. Marlow also wrote the very excellent "Parallel and Concurrent Programming in Haskell" book. Facebook also employs Bryan O'Sullivan, an epic Haskell library writer (Aeson, Attoparsec, Text, Vector, and on and o…
All correct, but I don't think Bryan O'Sullivan does much haskell these days. He's the manager of some sort of "Developer productivity" team. The Hack programming language came out of his team [1] (tho he wrote a blog post to contrast all the media coverage and say "my people did it, not me! [2]); he spoke about his activity at the last F8 [3]. But he does teach Haskell at Facebook after work :) [4]
[1] https://twitter.com/bos31337/status/446679462835273728 [2] http://www.serpentine.com/blog/2014/03/28/where-credit-belon... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0VH78ye4yY [4] https://twitter.com/bos31337/status/476536457000415232
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Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
#47For those not involved in the Haskell community, Simon Marlow worked full time on the GHC compiler and specifically run-time system for many years. Along with Simon Peyton-Jones, he's huge in the Haskell world. Marlow also wrote the very excellent "Parallel and Concurrent Programming in Haskell" book. Facebook also employs Bryan O'Sullivan, an epic Haskell library writer (Aeson, Attoparsec, Text, Vector, and on and o…
All correct, but I don't think Bryan O'Sullivan does much haskell these days. He's the manager of some sort of "Developer productivity" team. The Hack programming language came out of his team [1] (tho he wrote a blog post to contrast all the media coverage and say "my people did it, not me! [2]); he spoke about his activity at the last F8 [3]. But he does teach Haskell at Facebook after work :) [4] [1] https://twitt…
I've seen bigger slackers: https://github.com/bos
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
#48For those not involved in the Haskell community, Simon Marlow worked full time on the GHC compiler and specifically run-time system for many years. Along with Simon Peyton-Jones, he's huge in the Haskell world. Marlow also wrote the very excellent "Parallel and Concurrent Programming in Haskell" book. Facebook also employs Bryan O'Sullivan, an epic Haskell library writer (Aeson, Attoparsec, Text, Vector, and on and o…
A side note: The Haskell runtime is written in C so Simon Marlow is also one of the best low level C hackers I've ever met.
Marlow also famously says that the doesnt understand the zygohistomorphic prepromorphisms in Haskell.
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
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Yesod is the most actively developed and popular web framework for Haskell.
Also the nice thing about Yesod, is the freely available online book[0]. [0] http://www.yesodweb.com/book
Has the book caught up with the software? Last I checked, the book was written in terms of obsolete APIs that didnt match the yesod-geneterated app boilerplate, and Snoyman said that he didn't have time yet to update the book.
Re: Fighting spam with Haskell
#50This is impressive, and in line with Haskell's philosophy to "avoid success at all costs".
As a mere mortal programmer, who knows a little Haskell, my takeaway is that if you want to run Haskell in at web scale for a a large userbase, you need the language's primarily compiler author to help build the application and to modify the Haskell compiler to make it performant. And you also need your team led by a 20-year-veteran Haskell expert who is one of the language's handful of luminaries whonwrotr a plurality of its main libraries. What are the rest of us to do, who aren't at Facebook?