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Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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"A recent Gallup poll found that 60 percent of Americans – an all-time high – support extending the same rights and privileges to same-sex marriages as traditional ones."

only 60% of US citizens support same-sex marraige? in my area it is more like 90-95%, this was surprising and sad for me to hear

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#12
Yeah, I'm still slightly pissed they basically waited until the majority was clear before they'd rule on the matter. Its another clear sign our Judiciary is really just as political as the politicians are, even if no one says so openly.

> As late as October, the justices ducked the issue, refusing to hear appeals from rulings allowing same-sex marriage in five states. That decision delivered a tacit victory for gay rights, immediately expanding the number of states with same-sex marriage to 24, along with the District of Columbia, up from 19.

> Largely as a consequence of the Supreme Court’s decision not to act, the number of states allowing same-sex marriage has since grown to 36, and more than 70 percent of Americans live in places where gay couples can marry.

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If love is about ignoring race,class,gender,age shouldn't it be about ignoring numbers, too? Polygamy is the next hurdle for society. The judges should declare all consenting marriage legal !

I agree with your sentiment, but no with your account name. I don't think you deserve to be downvoted.

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post #11

"A recent Gallup poll found that 60 percent of Americans – an all-time high – support extending the same rights and privileges to same-sex marriages as traditional ones." only 60% of US citizens support same-sex marraige? in my area it is more like 90-95%, this was surprising and sad for me to hear

The other 40% are not necessarily against it completely - they may want gay marriage but want to call it civil unions.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Great news. Glad this won't be an issue going into the next presidential election. There's been so much time wasted on this issue when, at the end of the day, any 2 consenting adults should have all of the same rights as any other 2 consenting adults (barring felony conviction, poor mental health eval, etc).

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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For me and a lot of friends and family, marriage equality. Yay.

"It is now clear that the challenged laws burden the liberty of same-sex couples, and it must be further acknowledged that they abridge central precepts of equality . . . Especially against a long history of disapproval of their relationships, this denial to same-sex couples of the right to marry works a grave and continuing harm. The imposition of this disability on gays and lesbians serves to disrespect and subordinate them. And the Equal Protection Clause, like the Due Process Clause, prohibits this unjustified infringement of the fundamental right to marry." (page 22, from the coverage on SCOTUSBlog)

For others, the opinion also reasserted that people who are really mad about this can continue to be mad and vocal about it, as guaranteed by the First Amendment.

"Finally, it must be emphasized that religions, and those who adhere to religious doctrines, may continue to advocate with utmost, sincere conviction that, by divine precepts, same-sex marriage should not be condoned. The First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and persons are given proper protection as they seek to teach the principles that are so fulfilling and so central to their lives and faiths, and to their own deep aspirations to continue the family structure they have long revered. The same is true of those who oppose same-sex marriage for other reasons. In turn, those who believe allowing same-sex marriage is proper or indeed essential, whether as a matter of religious conviction or secular belief, may engage those who disagree with their view in an open and searching debate." (page ~32)

The full majority opinion [PDF]: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spoken like a straight person who has never been denied the ability to do something straight people take for granted.

I don't think he meant it like that. I echo the sentiment: it shouldn't have come to this. It should not have been a social, political, or legal issue. There's so much hate and bigotry in this country that needs to go away. edit: at least I hope he didn't mean it like that :(

Whichever way he meant it, his comment shows a very dismissive attitude toward the massive work that was involved in accomplishing this.

It's true it shouldn't have been a fight, but it was.

And the idea that there are so many "more important" issues, is also incredibly dismissive to how important the right to marriage equality is.

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Great decision. It's amazing how quickly gay rights have advanced in the western world. Unfortunately it's still legal in many states to discriminate against employees on the basis of sexual orientation. Hopefully that's next to be fixed.

You eat an elephant one bite at a time.

EDIT: I did not mean to cause a trainwreck below this comment. It was the quickest way on mobile to communicate "all big problems are tackled one task at a time".

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