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Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by wisew » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:15 PM UTC

iamd3vil wrote: post #93

Klathmon wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using atom for several months now, and i've never had a file take 30 seconds to open.. Granted all my devices use SSDs, but still for me it's been like 10 seconds at the worst, and currently it opens in like 3-4 (and i have about 30 plugins too)

I use may be 10 plugins. The speed is improved but still the startup time is so slow. May be I exaggerated a bit, but it will be definitely around 15-20 seconds for me.

You don't have to guess about the startup time – you can find the actual startup time by searching for Timecop in the Command Palette.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by typedweb » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:16 PM UTC

Both emacs keybinding emulation packages are sub-optimal. One misses C-p, the other misses C-e, both basic editor movement commands. Not impressed.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by wisew » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:17 PM UTC

joshburgess wrote: post #65

I've gotta say, honestly, I'm preferring Visual Studio Code over Atom simply due to the fact that it seems MUCH more stable and lightweight. Atom is very visually appealing, and I'm a fan of the project, in general, but it constantly freezes up and crashes on me. I think I'll be sticking with VS Code & Sublime.

In part, this is because VS Code is currently not extensible at all – there is no package ecosystem, and therefore no vector for users to possibly introduce instability / performance issues.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by a1b2c3 » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:17 PM UTC

What is this? I can't even tell. A text editor?

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by a1b2c3 » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:18 PM UTC

facepalm wrote: post #5

What is it?

LOL my thoughts exactly.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by wisew » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:21 PM UTC

hello_there wrote: post #117

ahoge wrote: post #55

Eh. Why is 1.0 out already? Keyboard layouts which use AltGr are still broken. E.g. I can't type '@', '\', and 'µ'. Yes, I can't write metadata annotations or escape some characters.

I'm running Atom 0.116.0 on Xubuntu and AltGr works perfectly fine. My keyboard layout is Norwegian.

0.116.0? That's an ancient version (or a typo). You should probably upgrade to 1.0.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by TranquilMarmot » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:25 PM UTC

a1b2c3 wrote: post #284

What is this? I can't even tell. A text editor?

Uhh... go to the main page (https://atom.io/) and it says right there "A hackable text editor"

It's github's text editor. It runs on "electron" which is a framework for making desktop apps. It uses node.js and Chromium.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by wisew » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:26 PM UTC

zerr wrote: post #145

smaili wrote: post #115

Just downloaded and opened Atom for the first time, and I have to admit the look and feel is amazing! Fantastic job to all those involved! However, one thing that stands out to me, the file size of Atom.app is 203MB!! How in the world can a text editor be that large? Compare that with MacVim, which is about 27MB.

That's why you shouldn't let javascript developers produce desktop apps... The whole Chromium is bundled with Atom.

No, a subset of Chromium is bundled with Atom: https://github.com/atom/libchromiumcontent

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by knodi123 » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC

mcbuilder wrote: post #270

knodi123 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Still: is anyone complaining of Emacs or Vim or ST3 being slow/complex because they have installed plugins to the core? Emacs? Yes. Absolutely. Emacs once stood, humorously, for “Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping”. That is a valid complaint that people have made.

That comment would make sense in the 1990s when we had 32 MB of ram, but you probably haven't used it since then. I type `e` and I'm instantly in an emacs client frame running on top a server and using a modern package manager that loads plugins and different modes in on the fly. I restart and kill the entire server after editing my init.el file and it takes takes a few seconds. Emacs itself takes up so little of a m…

> Emacs itself takes up so little of a memory footprint I don't even care about it

First it was lean. Then it grew and became bloated. Then people complained. And then available resources grew so fast that it didn't matter.

I didn't say emacs is too bloated to use, so your entire comment is a little off base. I said people have complained about emacs getting bloated in this same way for the same reasons. And they have. Historical fact.

Re: Atom 1.0

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Post by reledi » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC

Congratulations GitHub and Atom team!

Atom is my favourite editor for coding in, and it just keeps getting better.

I introduced my team to it today (pre 1.0 release, this is a nice surprise) and they were surprised by how pleasant the experience was - just a few minor hiccups. We've tried a bunch of editors and usually stick with Sublime because it's easiest to use while pairing, but I think that will change now.

Sorry for the tough HN crowd, you can never please them.

Here's to Atom 2.0 <3