Proposed Info Sharing Legislation Could Worsen NSA Surveillance
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#2CISA is the government's way of writing into law that people have no right to privacy in any data held by third party service providers. By granting legal immunity for service providers to share so-called "threat" data—potentially containing unminimized private customer data—law enforcement agencies are opening a huge backdoor for uncontrolled warrantless mass surveillance. Because this surveillance would be done in secret, people would have no legal basis to challenge what amounts to an end-run around the U.S. Constitution.
Watch in the coming weeks as lawmakers point to the OPM hacks as justification for spying on everyone's Gmail activity.
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#3I'm getting tired of finding out about all these ways in which agencies are allowed to use data which circumvent the Constitution. I have to wonder exactly what needs to happen for people to realize this. Then again, you also have to wonder why our own government is surprised people are using encrypted first communication.
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#4NSA/FBI surveillance is pretty unpopular - I'm pretty sure that Senator and Representative offices got a ton of calls about it, otherwise the PATRIOT Act section 215 wouldn't have sunsetted, it would have gotten a big sloppy wet rubber stamp. SOPA touched off a big campaign a couple of years ago, CISA gets nearly unanimous bad reviews.
So, why does the Senate keep trying to crank up this sort of thing? They need to be a little answerable to their constituency, they need to exhibit a little leadership in terms of not just blindly following party leadership and lobbyists.
Is this whole category of law a place where the DoJ has intercepted enough sketchy conversations that they've got leverage against key Senators and Reps? That's the only thing I can think of, other than the "intelligence community" is flat out lying in the secure sessions. Since the "intelligence community" has a long history of lying, with a lot of recent scandalous reveals, you'd think that oversight committees would be a lot less willing to just believe.
So, I'm torn. Why does this keep popping up?
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#5NSA/FBI surveillance is pretty unpopular - I'm pretty sure that Senator and Representative offices got a ton of calls about it, otherwise the PATRIOT Act section 215 wouldn't have sunsetted, it would have gotten a big sloppy wet rubber stamp. SOPA touched off a big campaign a couple of years ago, CISA gets nearly unanimous bad reviews. So, why does the Senate keep trying to crank up this sort of thing? They need to b…
> So, I'm torn. Why does this keep popping up?
Constituents may vote, but lobbyists pay the bills.
Re: Proposed Info Sharing Legislation Could Worsen NSA Surveillance
#6NSA/FBI surveillance is pretty unpopular - I'm pretty sure that Senator and Representative offices got a ton of calls about it, otherwise the PATRIOT Act section 215 wouldn't have sunsetted, it would have gotten a big sloppy wet rubber stamp. SOPA touched off a big campaign a couple of years ago, CISA gets nearly unanimous bad reviews. So, why does the Senate keep trying to crank up this sort of thing? They need to b…
Re: Proposed Info Sharing Legislation Could Worsen NSA Surveillance
#7NSA/FBI surveillance is pretty unpopular - I'm pretty sure that Senator and Representative offices got a ton of calls about it, otherwise the PATRIOT Act section 215 wouldn't have sunsetted, it would have gotten a big sloppy wet rubber stamp. SOPA touched off a big campaign a couple of years ago, CISA gets nearly unanimous bad reviews. So, why does the Senate keep trying to crank up this sort of thing? They need to b…
> So, I'm torn. Why does this keep popping up? Constituents may vote, but lobbyists pay the bills.
All the big tech companies want CISA because it legalizes data sharing programs like PRISM. To date, they've been forced to do this for years under Section 702 of FISA, but the whole thing has been in breach of their privacy agreements with customers.
Remember when EFF sued AT&T for [letting the NSA wiretap their Internet backbone facilities][1]? Congress killed the lawsuit by retroactively granting immunity under the FISA Amendments Act.
CISA is just the same thing, but for newer programs like PRISM, and tech companies want the immunity because they're otherwise being exposed to major liability.
Personally, I think a better idea would be to reform Section 702 of FISA to ban programs like PRISM. The government should be required to get a warrant when they want to look at private data.
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#8Wow, this is a totally uncredited ripoff of some analysis by Stanford Law's Jonathan Mayer. The image is essentially a remake of one he put together. In favor of changing the link.
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#9CISA is the government's way of writing into law that people have no right to privacy in any data held by third party service providers. By granting legal immunity for service providers to share so-called "threat" data—potentially containing unminimized private customer data—law enforcement agencies are opening a huge backdoor for uncontrolled warrantless mass surveillance. Because this surveillance would be done in…
This might not be a problem if we did not have a totalitarian legal system that depends on privacy and discretion because without it pretty much everyone is a criminal. I don't look forward to the day when government can pretty much put anyone away using secret evidence and laws that are already on the books.
They have already used so-called terrorism legislation to put away people involved with the drug trade. How long before they start spying on people downloading copyrighted material or in the UK people watching unsavory porn.
Re: Proposed Info Sharing Legislation Could Worsen NSA Surveillance
#10CISA is the government's way of writing into law that people have no right to privacy in any data held by third party service providers. By granting legal immunity for service providers to share so-called "threat" data—potentially containing unminimized private customer data—law enforcement agencies are opening a huge backdoor for uncontrolled warrantless mass surveillance. Because this surveillance would be done in…
> Watch in the coming weeks as lawmakers point to the OPM hacks as justification for spying on everyone's Gmail activity.
We can't stop leaking your personal information to the enemy, so we obviously need to collect and store more comprehensive and personal information.