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Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#21
a) think about changing your job or even career. b) If you dont think the fatigue is work related, you need to find a hobby and or a relationships that help you feel energized. c)For many people work is not calling , but a means to a good life, and that is OK. d)And regardless of what fatigues you ,take frequent breaks. Make it a point to go on vacations. Sometimes, being away from things helps to see them clearer.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#22
This is kind of a long story, but bear with me, it's relevant.

I went to a book signing by Brandon Sanderson. Not a huge fan of him as a person, but he's a fantastic writer and an incredibly smart man. He started off the signing with a little story about creativity. When Brandon was in college, he worked 3rd shift at a hotel. He'd go to school in the mornings, sleep in the afternoons, and work all night. He tried to roll his own degree, but they made him stick to the Creative Writing plan. Instead, he decided to mix up his electives -- take as many subjects as he possibly could. A writer needs to know about history, science, philosophy, technology, and so on. You can't just spend all day in English classes and expect to be a well-rounded writer!

So he took as many classes as he could. He'd go to class in the morning, sleep in the afternoon, and then get to work around midnight. In between checking in guests at the hotel, he'd work on his homework, and once his homework was done, he'd write for hours. He wrote his first six or seven novels while working at the hotel (the last one was actually picked up by a publisher or publication).

He said that he had no problem with this schedule... except for his programming class. He was taking a class that used Pascal, and he'd get to work, do his Pascal homework, and then be completely unable to write. He took dozens of classes at university, but the only one that left him completely creatively drained was programming.

In other words, programming took just as much energy out of him as writing did -- it exercises the same brain muscles, so to speak.

I don't really have much of a point to this, other than to say that a rather well-known fantasy author commiserates. Programming is hard. It's draining. It's being non-stop creative in solving problems.

My personal philosophy is this: everything can wait until tomorrow. When the clock hits 5 o'clock, start wrapping up. Find a stopping place, and pick it up tomorrow. Barring servers crashing, the work will still be there tomorrow. I don't check my email, I don't open my laptop, I don't do anything work-related once I get home. Home is me time. Nine-to-five is company time.

I guess there are two things here: programming is hard work, and draw a line between your personal and work life.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#23

This is kind of a long story, but bear with me, it's relevant. I went to a book signing by Brandon Sanderson. Not a huge fan of him as a person, but he's a fantastic writer and an incredibly smart man. He started off the signing with a little story about creativity. When Brandon was in college, he worked 3rd shift at a hotel. He'd go to school in the mornings, sleep in the afternoons, and work all night. He tried to…

I have a different theory: programming shuts down half your brain, giving all the juice to the other half.

When I stop for lunch, the world is in 2D for a while. Then after a few minutes it springs into 3D. I have to guess, that half my brain has been looking through its one eye mostly, coding with all its might. The other half is idling away, not even processing much visually.

I know, the right-brain left-brain thing is not universal. But for me, that's how it works.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#24
I almost never program exclusively 8 hours in a day. When it does happen, it's either because I'm uniquely inspired -- some insight to a problem that I badly want to resolve -- or there is some crunch deadline approaching fast.

Typically I write code in chunks of time not exceeding two hours, after which I shift to other tasks: catching up on emails; writing specs or drawing diagrams; thinking about larger-picture issues; reading work-related documents or instructional material; talking or IMing with coworkers.

Also, I take walks, go swimming, go for a run, go to the gym, do some pushups, get a coffee, read a book, play a musical instrument in between programming sessions.

Those context shifts make each programming block more meaningful and concentrated for me.

My most productive days usually leave me energized, not exhausted.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#25
1) exercise before work (this should help, but it sounds like you've already tried it)

2) eat breakfast before work

3) get out of the office for lunch, maybe even have a beer with friends, once in a while

4) stand up for yourself while at work -- challenge silly tasks and try to delegate 'crap' work

5) get a medical checkup

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#27
I had issues similar to this twice. The first time when i was in college, i consulted a doctor. He diagonised vitamin deficiency due to poor food at hostel. The vitamin supplements helped a lot. It felt like a switch was flipped on. Another time was quite recently. I had healthy diet and exercise almost everyday. Yet i often felt drained. Adding a yoga session in the morning made a huge difference. Around that time, i also stopping sitting for long periods and moved a lot more. I am trying a make shift standing desk. Maybe that helped too.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#28
I find that taking short breaks for intense things like studying and coding helps. I shoot for 50 Min on 10 off. Time off will be something undemanding like slashdot or hacker news. Tweak the times to find what works.

Also if you go wide open for any long period with no down time you are going to burn out and start thrashing. 2 weeks is my limit.

Intention is important. If I start the day with the intent of having something left over for myself at the end it really helps.

Re: Ask HN: How do you deal with after work fatigue?

#29
I'm surprised nobody has brought this up yet:

Do you actually enjoy your current job?

I find that if you don't really enjoy what you're doing, you end up living in this perpetual state of stress. And while that stress might be small at any one given time (minor annoyances here and there), because you're working for 8+ hours/day, it really adds up. Bodies aren't meant to be chronically subjected to cortisol (stress hormone).

I hate my current job, and I completely 100% empathize with the way you feel. I shifted my sleeping schedule so I could get 2-3 hours of work in before leaving for the day, but I just feel so beat down that I can't motivate myself to do anything.

I'm getting ready to leave so I decided to take the rest of my vacation time to prep for interviews. The difference is night and day - I've been studying 10+ hours/day without slowing down and I finally feel like I'm full of energy and hope again.

Maybe you just need a change of scenery.

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