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An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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The Famine made Ireland "Irish" in the sense that we understand it today. The famine caused people to become more pious in their Catholicism, even more impoverished and detest the British even more than what they previously did. It probably was the single most important factor in shaping modern Ireland. Many here are probably aware that Ireland had in 1845 a population of 9 Million but only 6 Million today (all Islan…

"If the famine didn't happen Ireland could easily have a population of over 30 Million" Would you really want to become Bangladesh? 30 Million seems an awfully high number for a country of such size and latitude.

If Ireland had similar population density to Southeast England, it would have a population of around 39 million.

Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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"still looks to be strong" As you know, you can't tell that from this picture. An area that has had large annual population decreases for the first 5 years, and slower growth for the second 5 will still show up as red. Also, quite a bit of the population decreases in the countryside will be of people moving into the cities. Because of differences in population density, that can give the impression of population decli…

Why should the growth of economy be a miracle if the population is shrinking? Mostly that's why the population is shrinking, people who live in the better economies, mostly have less kids, mostly due to the fact that they don't have the time and mostly working harder than others. Also our economy grown mostly cause of the fact that our strong export got a huge increase since we had a european currency ("Deutsche Mark…

If your population grows, you get some growth 'for free' in the sense that it doesn't require productivity to increase.

If the population shrinks, keeping the economy flat already requires productivity improvements. Growing it at a time where other economies with growing populations can't is a bit of a miracle. Those increased exports still have to be produced.

Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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Shows percent change... but not the magnitude of the change. Seeing a map that combined both percentage and magnitude to compute the colors (perhaps similar to the Tf–idf calculation?) would be much more interpretable. 50% of people leaving the middle of a forest doesn't really tell me much, versus 50% change in a dense city.

True.. I see the big blue shades between Portugal and Spain and imagine those areas growing, but that region is basically rural

Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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Anyone have any idea why in the countries most hit by the recession (Spain, Italy and Greece to name a few) there's striking divergence between population growth specifically decreasing Greece on one hand while increasing in Italy and Spain in general despite the three of them share the same dynamics at play and especially Greece and Spain?

Eastern Europeans are much more likely to migrate to Italy and Spain than to Greece. Romanians especially. One reason is that Romanian is closer to Italian and Spanish than to Greek.

Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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Anyone have any idea why in the countries most hit by the recession (Spain, Italy and Greece to name a few) there's striking divergence between population growth specifically decreasing Greece on one hand while increasing in Italy and Spain in general despite the three of them share the same dynamics at play and especially Greece and Spain?

I'm not sure if that's true. Pick Spain:

Madrid and all surrounding cities (Toledo, etc.) are a big shade of red. Barcelona and in fact the entire densely populated Mediterranean coast (Valencia, etc.) is also lipstick-red. Sure, let's look at the Basque Country. Also red.

The only blue I see is in the mostly rural Extremadura, Leon, etc. (close to Portugal).

So even if pop. decreased, not everyone moved from e.g. Madrid to Germany. Many people moved to smaller cities or rural areas, so if you just see the map without pop densities it looks that way.

Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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"If the famine didn't happen Ireland could easily have a population of over 30 Million" Would you really want to become Bangladesh? 30 Million seems an awfully high number for a country of such size and latitude.

If Ireland had similar population density to Southeast England, it would have a population of around 39 million.

England has forests, nature reserves, fjords elsewhere. That's why this region can be so dense? Why would you want to build up everything? Where's the gain I wonder?

Re: An Incredibly Detailed Map of Europe's Population Shifts

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They've left the Falklands off the map! How come? I mean, Guyane's there!

Guyane is considered part of France (so part of the EU), but the Falklands (and other overseas territories, there are a few) aren't part of the UK, or the EU.
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