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Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

#3
Nice project but the documentation is a bit terse (yet). We like https://github.com/sdelements/lets-chat atm.

Things that would be essential for me to use it in a company are

- LDAP or OAUTH integration - Hubot integration

I'm not sure Zapier integration cuts it for use cases where I want a self hosted solution.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

#5
I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days.

On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative.

Here is a non exhaustive list :

RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737

Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841

Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9461504

Gitter : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6739074

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

#6
Here's the code: https://github.com/mattermost/platform

From the look of the screenshots ( http://www.mattermost.org/70-2/ ), I'd say there are some copyright concerns with the styles. This isn't a Slack alternative, it's a Slack clone. That's very problematic from a copyright stance. Why not create your own design style?

Gogs had (has?) this same issue: https://github.com/gogits/gogs/issues/1069

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

#7
> Teams who can’t use SaaS rely on cryptic, decades-old technologies. As an example, the US Army uses myIRC to order missile strikes

"myIRC" doesn't exist. The name of the protocol is IRC. The name of a popular Windows client is mIRC. WikiLeaks called their leak "mIRC logs," which is where this trope came from.

The United States military (not just the Army) uses Internet Relay Chat for a whole lot of C2. It runs on a network, both IRC and IP, dedicated to the purpose. Given how long IRC has been in existence, that they've been doing it since the early 90s, that the use case is the perfect ideal for IRC, and that the average modern Web app is less reliable than my last Datsun, I have a hard time finding incredulity at sticking with something that works.

Even beyond that, IRC is text-based. It is not cryptic. An IRC client is a common first software project. About twenty lines of Go gets you a bot. You can make IRC look exactly like Mattermost with a week of hacking in your favorite framework of choice, and then you're not reinventing fanout. Entire products have been built atop IRC.

Even beyond that, guess how many protocols are decades old in just the software development workflow for this product. Pretty tired of "that's old, let's do it better," even though I hate finding myself on this side of defending IRC.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

#9

> Teams who can’t use SaaS rely on cryptic, decades-old technologies. As an example, the US Army uses myIRC to order missile strikes "myIRC" doesn't exist. The name of the protocol is IRC. The name of a popular Windows client is mIRC. WikiLeaks called their leak "mIRC logs," which is where this trope came from. The United States military (not just the Army) uses Internet Relay Chat for a whole lot of C2. It runs on a…

IRC federates easily, requires minimal resources, and is vastly more efficient when it comes to bandwidth usage. (you'll notice this over satellite links)

plus it works in screen natively

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