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Introducing the Famous Framework

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Re: Introducing the Famous Framework

#22

Asking 10 people to explain what MVC is, and you'll get 11 answers ;) ! Having recently done a dive into this area, I would really recommend interested folks to patiently read this great article by Martin Fowler: http://martinfowler.com/eaaDev/uiArchs.html The web community has been done a great disservice by people popularising the phrase "MV*".

One could do worse than having a look at: https://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver/themes/mvc/mvc-index.html

Re: Introducing the Famous Framework

#23
post #7

For a UI framework, show me a pretty demo with some example snippet code next to it and I will read on. Otherwise, I'm not motivated -- this is not the way you want people to read about your UI framework.

I agree with you, but when you go to the main page of the project [0] it looks cool and I might use it soon.

[0] http://famous.org/

Re: Introducing the Famous Framework

#25

Asking 10 people to explain what MVC is, and you'll get 11 answers ;) ! Having recently done a dive into this area, I would really recommend interested folks to patiently read this great article by Martin Fowler: http://martinfowler.com/eaaDev/uiArchs.html The web community has been done a great disservice by people popularising the phrase "MV*".

Yep. There's also some good discussion on the Portland Pattern Repository, particularly this discussion[1] about how the meaning of "Controller" changed from it's original Smalltalk meaning (where it is the component that updates the model in response to user input) to the way it's sometimes used today (as an object which mediates communication between the model and the view).

[1] http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WhatsaControllerAnyway

Re: Introducing the Famous Framework

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Link to the framework page [0]. I couldn't find any demos there or in other pages, though. I couldn't figure out how to run the examples [1] and there's no live links of em either.

This is not specifically directed at Famous... Why don't you [framework creators] show off REAL freaking apps? Show me a reasonably sized application that handles sophisticated user interactions. How do you handle routing? Data fetching / caching? Production builds? Testing environment? Dealing with your everyday CRUD? It's alright if your framework is meant as a framework that only handles some specific things, show a real-world example of the framework to highlight how it makes things easier/better/simpler/faster. I don't want to see TodoMVC or single-file examples. I know it's absolutely NOT sexy, but it's most of what I'll be having to deal with in my day-to-day work as a developer. (The only frontend framework that I know of that does a tremendous job at this is ember. I don't use ember, but I have nothing but the utmost respect for its developers.)

Specifically to famous: You touch on the topic of building large applications with Famous in this link. Your lack of reference applications (although not necessarily unreasonable, as you just announced the alpha) does nothing to gain my trust as a developer. I'd love to see a non-trivial example application that shows the full picture of what an app would look like.

[0] http://famous.org/framework/ [1] https://github.com/Famous/framework/tree/develop/lib/core-co...

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