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I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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What visa do you have now?

In AOS (Adjustment of status) now - its sort of a limbo before getting a greencard

Me too :|

We (my company and I) are desperately waiting for this to go through so that I can get the clearance to work on a wider range of unmanned air vehicles.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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I'm also from New Zealand, also went to Yale (albeit as a graduate not undergrad), and also had my mother tell me I was "very American". And I also ran out of options for US visas after 5 years (10 years away from NZ in total), despite a Yale MBA and McKinsey on my resume. More to the point I stopped trying, seeing that the system was structured against me, and that my ambition of starting my own company(s) was not g…

Politicians not corrupt? I haven't lived in NZ for 8 years but they are more corrupt today than 8 years ago, without a doubt.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Disclaimer: I am a Canadian permanent resident. > I like it here. This is the real problem, you have a severe case of non-reciprocal love. In that case the answer is obvious: move over, find another love, come to Canada or go to Northern Europe. U.S. immigration is an American problem,since they are the ones loosing talent and entrepreneurial people. It is not an immigrant's problem, since they don't have the powers…

Just to clarify in case people still have the impression that Canada is good for immigration: Maybe Canada is better than America for immigration, the experience is getting worse.

After the new immigration minister came up in July 2013, the government has changed policies to make immigration slow and the path to citizenship much harder.

1) A Labour Market Opinion (LMO), which is required before a work visa, itself used to take 6 weeks in 2008. This process now takes about 6 months (my case, which is not too slow) to 1 year (another friend's case, and plenty of people in forums). For the work visa, add another 2-6 months on top of it, and then you have to apply the temporary resident visa.

2) Path to citizenship (having work visa => permanent residence => citizenship) used to take a total of 4 years (roughly), now is changed to 1 + 2 + 4 (7 years), a significantly longer time frame.

I get the feeling that Canada is changing its opinion of welcoming immigrants.

Disclaimer: Used to live in Canada, but have left.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Disclaimer: I am a Canadian permanent resident. > I like it here. This is the real problem, you have a severe case of non-reciprocal love. In that case the answer is obvious: move over, find another love, come to Canada or go to Northern Europe. U.S. immigration is an American problem,since they are the ones loosing talent and entrepreneurial people. It is not an immigrant's problem, since they don't have the powers…

As an American, I also strongly suggest you consider going to Canada. The U.S. immigration system is so far gone that not even American citizens have the power to fix it. It has become a plaything in the hands of professional politicians. Just like many other things in the U.S., you won't get anything remotely like fair treatment unless you have rich or influential sponsors acting on your behalf. Even if you do ultim…

This is totally true. The difference between how US immigration treats me (Canadian) vs. my partner (Australian) is truly breathtaking. One of us gets the red carpet and the other gets a cavity search (almost).

If you're Canadian you have an advantage over any other non-American, no question.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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That's exactly what I did. I spent a lot of time and money on immigration lawyers trying to find a way to immigrate to the U.S. only because I don't have a degree. After years of trying without any success I started looking into other options, only to find that it's significantly easier to immigrate into other countries (like Canada). Two months ago I got an offer from a Dutch company (even with them knowing about my…

> my degree issue This is interesting. Must you have a degree to immigrate if you have a strong work history?

The H1-B=>GC route to immigration does require a degree - 4 yr one is preferred but in some cases 3yr + ton of experience gets you buy. It's not guaranteed though.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Disclaimer: I am a Canadian permanent resident. > I like it here. This is the real problem, you have a severe case of non-reciprocal love. In that case the answer is obvious: move over, find another love, come to Canada or go to Northern Europe. U.S. immigration is an American problem,since they are the ones loosing talent and entrepreneurial people. It is not an immigrant's problem, since they don't have the powers…

> move over, find another love,

I agree, I wanted to go to US from India but realized that its not going to happen so I went to Australia. Aus immigration is fairly simple process if you have tech background.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Yes because if you have some criticism of policies that allow Disney to have workers train their foreign replacement you must be some kind of xenophobic racist. Immigration is a complex issue. Name calling doesn't solve anything.

I'd be open to hearing your criticism of policies that allow Disney to have [American] workers train their foreign replacements that don't invoke any sort of xenophobia or racism. The whole idea that it would be wrong or humiliating to have to train someone who had the gall to be born in a different (and generally poorer) country is based on the notion that Americans should be treated with more regard than people bor…

Is Disney going to pay the new 200 employees the same wages, and work them the same? Are the new employees going to ask for the same pay, and ask for the same treatment? Do they even have an empowered position to ask for that?

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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America hasn't bankrupted itself "raising the children of others". America has accepted others into its family, and grown stronger and wealthier because of it. Thomas Paine: immigrant Andrew Carnegie: immigrant Nikola Tesla: immigrant Igor Sikorsky: immigrant Albert Einstein: immigrant Cary Grant: immigrant William Shockley (co-inventor of the transistor): immigrant Wernher Von Braun: immigrant Eddie Van Halen: immig…

And you forgot the 19 9/11 hijackers who killed more than 3000 Americans : immigrants .

Talk about throwing the baby with the bathwater.

You will always have some bad apples.

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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I spent many years waiting to get my Canadian paperwork sorted out and spent a small fortune doing so. In the end I gave up and moved back to NL.

I was awarded Permanent Residency to me and my wife without either of us ever having visited Canada or a firm job offer(s). No other country does that. The Canadian immigration system is one of the most generous around.

Some are not as lucky. One time CIC was so overwhelmed with a backlog of PR applications, they literally simply said, "screw it" and cancelled 300K (?) applications that have been sitting on their shelves waiting to be processed for years already. http://canadianimmigrant.ca/slider/300000-skilled-worker-app...

Re: I spent the last 15 years trying to become an American and failed

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Sound logic, but it is not an automatically enforced one. Take waste collectors, for example: Very few people want to do it, very few people actually do it. And it is necessary. By our sound logic, their salaries should be soaring, but they're not. On the other hand, take lawyers in the U.S. A huge number of people want to do it. A huge number of people ends up doing it (I think the number of lawyers tripled in 30 ye…

Interestingly waste collectors (garbos in Aussie slang) are well paid and it is quite a desirable job. They are also the hardest working government employees you see as they are given a route and when they have finished they can go home. Amazing how government can work when the structure is right.

Yes! There are certain countries that deal with these matters in a way that's alien to the rest of us. It appears that Japan has an interesting way, too.

As a side note, speaking of governement.. as a teenager, one of the books that were laying around was "The American Challenge" (Le Défi Américain) by Jean-Jacques Servan-Schreiber. It was a parallel between European countries and the U.S.A. It also addressed the Japanese and Swedish models, the technology gap (he warned that if Europe let the U.S. get ahead, there will be a time where the gap is simply too big to cross).

It is a very interesting book.

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