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Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe »

el_benhameen wrote: post #70

I went to Cliff's house a few years back to buy one of his bottles as a gift for my dad. He was just as effusive, welcoming, and excited for one visitor he'd never met as he was in the video. I thought I was just swinging by to pick up the bottle and pay the check, but I ended up staying for about 45 minutes (because he just kept going!), chatting about the crawlspace, the robot, and life in general. He talked about…

Well how are his kids?

Edit: Seriously, he seems like a fun parent.

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe »

jpalomaki wrote: post #10
slyall wrote: post #7

Cliff Stoll in case people were wondering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Stoll I have his original book my shelf, it was fascinating when it came out. His Klein Bottle company is here: http://www.kleinbottle.com/

He has also written Cuckoo's Egg, a book about his hunt for hacker that broke into computer at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cuckoo%27s_Egg This was really fascinating read for a young nerd around very early 1990's.

The voice in that book seems different from the voice in the video, but what do I know :). Cliff turned me on to the "peoples republic of berkley" Does anyone call it that anymore?

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by fennecfoxen »

samtimalsina wrote: post #100
esquivalience wrote: post #66

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He writes well. Check out the guarantees section ( http://www.kleinbottle.com/guarantee.htm ): We unconditionally guarantee your Acme Klein Bottle to be free of any defects in workmanship or workwomanship for a period of ONE YEAR following purchase. If you aren't satisfied with your Acme Klein Bottle -- for any reason -- just return it for a refund or replacement. You pick up shipping charges. We guarantee safe arriv…

The big print giveth and the small print taketh away.

oblig. Tom Waits allusion deserves the full song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_snSkpULQ and lyrics: http://www.tomwaits.com/songs/song/322/Step_Right_Up/

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by el_benhameen »

0xdeadbeefbabe wrote: post #111
el_benhameen wrote: post #70

I went to Cliff's house a few years back to buy one of his bottles as a gift for my dad. He was just as effusive, welcoming, and excited for one visitor he'd never met as he was in the video. I thought I was just swinging by to pick up the bottle and pay the check, but I ended up staying for about 45 minutes (because he just kept going!), chatting about the crawlspace, the robot, and life in general. He talked about…

Well how are his kids? Edit: Seriously, he seems like a fun parent.

He was wild about them, and given how creative and dedicated this fellow seemed, I'm sure they're geniuses. I didn't meet them, though, so I can't really say much more than that.

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

ziggit wrote: post #108
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #94

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You can't --- it has no inside. yes it does, you just pour in/out from the bottom.

You can't --- it has no inside. That's basically the whole novelty of a Klein Bottle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

Maybe I'm being thick, but they clearly have an inside. Your link does not mention anything about not having an inside.

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by DanBC »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #116
ziggit wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't --- it has no inside. That's basically the whole novelty of a Klein Bottle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

Maybe I'm being thick, but they clearly have an inside. Your link does not mention anything about not having an inside.

Does a möbius strip have an inside or outside? The klein bottle is similar. The inside is the outside.

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

DanBC wrote: post #117
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #116

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Maybe I'm being thick, but they clearly have an inside. Your link does not mention anything about not having an inside.

Does a möbius strip have an inside or outside? The klein bottle is similar. The inside is the outside.

I think maybe it's just semantics. I seem to be incorrectly assuming that the inside of the bottle is the space where the liquid goes. And the inside of the möbius strip would be the gap where you put your neck if you were to wear it as a necklace.

Would it be more correct to say that there is no inside surface? And it was just a pun that went over my head?

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by dazmax »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #116
ziggit wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't --- it has no inside. That's basically the whole novelty of a Klein Bottle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

Maybe I'm being thick, but they clearly have an inside. Your link does not mention anything about not having an inside.

It's a joke. It has an inside as much as any bottle does, but the only point of a Klein Bottle is the topological form so they're using topological language to talk about it.

Re: The man with 1,000 klein bottles under his house [video]

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

dazmax wrote: post #119
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm being thick, but they clearly have an inside. Your link does not mention anything about not having an inside.

It's a joke. It has an inside as much as any bottle does, but the only point of a Klein Bottle is the topological form so they're using topological language to talk about it.

If you see my reply to the sibling I figured it out. However, thanks for confirming.
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