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Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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Why are so many companies hacking on atom recently? First it was MS, and now FB? Anything special about Atom that you don't get in something like Vim or Emacs? They're both open source, and very hackable.

Yes, a native-feeling GUI. Emacs GUI for OSX is ugly and unpolished. Atom's real competition is Sublime, but unlike Sublime it's open source.

I really hope Sublime goes open source someday

Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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Yes, a native-feeling GUI. Emacs GUI for OSX is ugly and unpolished. Atom's real competition is Sublime, but unlike Sublime it's open source.

I really hope Sublime goes open source someday

I really hope people start paying more for software someday.

Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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I really hope Sublime goes open source someday

I really hope people start paying more for software someday.

I paid for Sublime - it's my favourite editor by far. There are ways for companies to support themselves while having their offering be open source though. And I think Sublime might need to eventually to compete

Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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post #7

Why are so many companies hacking on atom recently? First it was MS, and now FB? Anything special about Atom that you don't get in something like Vim or Emacs? They're both open source, and very hackable.

It's okay hopefully all this gets merged into atom when these projects don't get the userbase they are looking for.

They said they'd like to make this stuff work as Atom plugins eventually

Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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I really hope Sublime goes open source someday

I really hope people start paying more for software someday.

Open source != no cost of distribution: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

I work with someone who has gotten me thinking a lot more about what software I do and don't pay for. He pays for any software he uses "daily". The payments are either donations to open source projects, service fees, or software purchases.

Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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I really hope people start paying more for software someday.

I paid for Sublime - it's my favourite editor by far. There are ways for companies to support themselves while having their offering be open source though. And I think Sublime might need to eventually to compete

OpenSource often means easy to use without paying. It gives you choice to use but not pay. I am not against open source but most of the time people religiously screaming that this and that must be open source are the ones that never pay for software.

Oh and also replying to the guy above. Tell that to dozens of OSS tools that had to be supported by real companies because people were not that willing to donate. Look at grsecurity for example, tmux, and the other ones i do not remember that Stripe donated 100k to.

Re: Building Nuclide, a unified developer experience

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hope people start paying more for software someday.

Open source != no cost of distribution: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html I work with someone who has gotten me thinking a lot more about what software I do and don't pay for. He pays for any software he uses "daily". The payments are either donations to open source projects, service fees, or software purchases.

In reality there would be a CentOS and everyone would use that instead.

Although this would not be much of a change for Sublime in particular, which is commercial with purchase optional (just occasional nagging.)

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