Lies Employers Use to Get You to Work with Them
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Lies Employers Use to Get You to Work with Them
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#2Interesting read.
I've personally seen other 'tactics' used, most notably a former company's CFO told my Manager that I was being paid 20k more in Salary than I actually was.
This 20k was then subtracted from the IT Budget presumably on a yearly basis. Any other stories from readers?
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#3My new manager just admitted to me a couple weeks back that my old manager (who is his manager now) straight up lied to me to get me in the door. He lied about how quickly my salary would increase. They told me that every six months salary is generally increased. Now that six months has come, he tells me that it is very rare for an increase mid-year.
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#4This is just another instance of western societies devolving from a high-trust environment into a low-trust environment. In the short term, cheating in the prisoners dilemma of social trust is beneficial for the cheater, but in the long run it ends up resulting in lower economic growth, making everyone poorer.
Social trust is the key to economic growth (by allowing de-risked specialization) and political liberty (by allowing minimal black-letter law.) It is too bad that it is rarely discussed, and has been casually jettisoned by the west.
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#5Is it just me or does reading an article on LinkedIn about people lying at work feel like a recursive loop?
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#61, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are weasel words. What is "a lot"; what is "extensive"; how often is "on occasion"? They're not lies: they just mean nothing.
2 and 3 are firm statements: ask for them in writing. Even if they're not in an official employment contract, an email stating same might give you enough ammo for a Fraudulent Inducement Of Employment case (if push came to shove).
Ask follow-up questions to get a quantitative answer based on past performance. Promises of future raises (or other future actions) are complete BS and should be treated as such.
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#7Great article!
I usually work at BigCorps. One problem I have is that they send the exceptional workers to interview me (and other candidates), but once I start I find out I'm working with a bunch of duds. How can I get a big picture view of (almost) all of the people I will be working with along with their skill levels?
I don't expect everyone in the company to be all A team or B team tier, but I don't want to be a part of an organization where 80% of the people are barley qualified to do their job.
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#8This is just another instance of western societies devolving from a high-trust environment into a low-trust environment. In the short term, cheating in the prisoners dilemma of social trust is beneficial for the cheater, but in the long run it ends up resulting in lower economic growth, making everyone poorer. Social trust is the key to economic growth (by allowing de-risked specialization) and political liberty (by…
What do you see in contrast to "the west"? I'm just curious what you're comparing the US (and possibly Western Europe) to.
I don't see China as being a tremendously high-trust social environment, for instance.
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#9Great article! I usually work at BigCorps. One problem I have is that they send the exceptional workers to interview me (and other candidates), but once I start I find out I'm working with a bunch of duds. How can I get a big picture view of (almost) all of the people I will be working with along with their skill levels? I don't expect everyone in the company to be all A team or B team tier, but I don't want to be a…
Start by asking, "who would my manager be?" or "who would my team be?"
If you're not being interviewed by anybody who will be on your prospective team, that's already a red flag. You should be talking to your future coworkers (and maybe others, sure) and you should know which ones they are.
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#10Is it just me or does reading an article on LinkedIn about people lying at work feel like a recursive loop?
It's just seeing it from the other side. Both sides lie, and both sides have coping tactics for the lies of the other.