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Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Re: Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Post by twoodfin »

kincardine wrote: post #10

So, without making a judgement call on this actual decision. It amazes me that no one saw this type of reaction from artists (and the generally pro-artist consumer base) coming when the overall business plan was created. And that the concession was made so quickly...

...and now there's tons of free media that Swift's latest album will be on Apple Music (and not on Spotify)!

I think this is a bit too much of a bank shot to have been planned ahead of time, but nice work by Eddy Cue and Apple PR to acquire and then cash in this bargaining chip in probably the most effective way possible.

Re: Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Post by terhechte »

SchizoDuckie wrote: post #12

Musicians can complain when they want a bigger cut and it's fixed the next day. App developers and content producers get emailed 'we are taking more out of your cut' or 'if you don't want us to show ads near your content, reply to this email with "opt out"'

Apple is not currently about to release a new App Store with new rules and has to hope that all the current App Developers will move over. Apple Music will suck if too many big artists refrain from signing up for it, so Apple needs to cater to the Artists.

It is the same with Microsoft's App Store, where they literally pay developers money (or used to) so they port their apps over to the store.

Re: Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Post by BenjiSujang »

FreakyT wrote: post #28

Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed in this. The music industry has long been using bullying to get what they want, and this is no exception to that rule. The sooner every traditional media company goes out of business, the better the situation will be for everyone -- listeners and artists.

And Apple, Google, Microsoft are much more philantrophic than the music companies ...

Of course not, they're worse as they gain more control. Best for customers and artists is good competition.

Re: Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Post by Marazan »

FreakyT wrote: post #28

Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed in this. The music industry has long been using bullying to get what they want, and this is no exception to that rule. The sooner every traditional media company goes out of business, the better the situation will be for everyone -- listeners and artists.

I know, imagine wanting to get paid for the work they produce. What utter scumbags.

I presume you work for free?

Re: Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Post by gilgoomesh »

SchizoDuckie wrote: post #12

Musicians can complain when they want a bigger cut and it's fixed the next day. App developers and content producers get emailed 'we are taking more out of your cut' or 'if you don't want us to show ads near your content, reply to this email with "opt out"'

I understand your point but your second line is completely inaccurate (at least, in regards to app developers). Apple have never changed the cut that app developers get nor have they ever shown unsolicited ads near/alongside/with apps.

Re: Apple Says “We Hear You Taylor Swift”, Will Pay Musicians During Free Trial

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Post by 6stringmerc »

Huh, well how about that. In my last comments on the subject I postulated that Apple could easily afford the money to pay artists/labels during that period. Apparently they could not afford to not pay, image wise.

Not sure if it sounds more cynical or stereotypical on my part, but I'd guess that there's a lot of overlap between Taylor Swift fans and Apple's target market. Good move in the long run for Apple, and in the short term they get to play it off like collaboration. I don't see it as anything but a disagreement between two juggernauts, The Taylor Swift Corporate Entertainment Empire Wordwide (TM) and Apple's Jimmy Iovene Music Experience (TM), but I'll take my pennies and keep on truckin'.

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