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You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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While I see some value in his practical insights the logic is deeply flawed. I would much rather he just share his observations on optimal work environments than try to explain what we are "meant" to do in some kind of incomprehensible pseudo-science.

By precisely the same reasoning we are meant to rape women to impregnate them and murder members of competing tribes, and are not meant to have birth control, surgery, or a level of technological complexity in the world that is beyond the power of any one human to fully comprehend.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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But I think this is the weakest part of the article : "And since human nature limits the size of group that can work together, the only way I can imagine for larger groups to avoid tree structure would be to have no structure: to have each group actually be independent, and to work together the way components of a market economy do." There's a reason for that . Ronald Coase in his Theory of the firm explained that th…

> Sometimes , I think that the zeitgeist has swung too far in favour towards being an entrepreneur instead of working for someone and making something awesome.

I can agree with this. There's definitely some long term, large scale projects that require more coordination than a bunch of disparate groups working together. I doubt the pyramids, the statue of Liberty, or the Empire State Building could have been built that way.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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>Technology tends to separate normal from natural. Our bodies weren't designed to eat the foods that people in rich countries eat, or to get so little exercise. There may be a similar problem with the way we work: a normal job may be as bad for us intellectually as white flour or sugar is for us physically.

It's not technology, it's society. The notion of "working from 9 to 5 until 65" is a relatively recent construct brought on by the industrial revolution. There's a great section on this in the book Your Money or Your Life. If you read some of the literature of the times, there was a period in which some authors and thinkers started saying that people would have more leisure time, and thus be more creative. Industrialists didn't like this since it limited productivity and the potential for growth. Moralists didn't like this, since they believed idle hands lead to trouble. A massive campaign was waged to get society to buy into the concepts that growth (not sustainability) is needed, and that productivity is important. This also coincided with the growth of consumerism, as people started thinking they needed more stuff.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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post #21

While I see some value in his practical insights the logic is deeply flawed. I would much rather he just share his observations on optimal work environments than try to explain what we are "meant" to do in some kind of incomprehensible pseudo-science. By precisely the same reasoning we are meant to rape women to impregnate them and murder members of competing tribes, and are not meant to have birth control, surgery,…

Woah. It's not like he's saying "this newfangled thing is bad because it's new", he's citing specific health and well-being effects that he has observed. I doubt you could make the same case for rape.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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post #18

Animal analogy is interesting. Any animals that cultivate crops? Are there any Human hunter/gatherer societies that scaled? Here's a snippet of dialog from one of my favorite movies: Jeremiah Johnson: You wouldn't happen to know what month of the year it is? Bear Claw: Why no, I truly wouldn't. I'm sorry, pilgrim. Winter's a long time going? Jeremiah Johnson: [exhausted] Ah. Bear Claw: Stays long this high. Jeremiah…

> Are there any Human hunter/gatherer societies that scaled?

I'm not aware of any, and I think that it would be impossible. You can't really achieve a lot of density with hunting and gathering because before long you've hunted and gathered everything around you at a rate beyond which those natural resources can regenerate. Thence cometh agriculture.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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Financing a startup with debt is usually a stupid move. Why? Isn't that better than giving away equity, assuming that you actually believe your company will reach multi-billions in valuation in the future?

Debt is a bond, and your creditors have priority for payment. Creditors generally adopt a "FU, pay me". So you end up burning hard cash to make your payments + interest.

An equity investor theoretically has an interest in the enterprise actually succeeding.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

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>Technology tends to separate normal from natural. Our bodies weren't designed to eat the foods that people in rich countries eat, or to get so little exercise. There may be a similar problem with the way we work: a normal job may be as bad for us intellectually as white flour or sugar is for us physically. It's not technology, it's society. The notion of "working from 9 to 5 until 65" is a relatively recent construc…

>> It's not technology, it's society. The notion of "working from 9 to 5 until 65" is a relatively recent construct brought on by the industrial revolution.

I'll buy this if by "brought on by the industrial revolution" you mean "demanded by organized workers in response to the excesses of the industrial revolution." If it weren't for unions I don't think the 40 hour work week would be anything like the norm.

Re: You Weren't Meant to Have a Boss

#30
oh my.

let's look at animals again, shall we. ants? bees? any form of colony or swarm? penguins? birds all over?

cherry pick examples to fit a narrative, nicely worded but utterly wrong.

for some things small and nimble is best. for other things, like flying to the moon or producing hardware scale is needed.

you don't like big corp environments? fine. but just like being a vegan it is a choice, not an absolute truth.

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