To Apple, Love Taylor

Post by RexRollman » Sun, Jun 21, 2015, 12:55 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #40

nemik wrote: post #30

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From http://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2015/6/13/apples-cash-dilem... it seems like Apple may not actually have the cash to do this, not in the USA at least and it would need to pay taxes on the cash it is holding outside the US to pay the majority US labels/producers/artists. Not that this excuses what they're trying to pull here or anything. By trying to weasel out of paying any US taxes, they can't spend their own…

Not defending apple for not paying artists, but I will defend their 'weaseling' out of US taxes. U.S. Corporate taxes are among the highest in the world and until Washington starts lowering their confiscatory tax rates, I would encourage all businesses to avoid repatriating earnings. A 10% tax rate is high enough.

Post by icebraining » Sun, Jun 21, 2015, 12:57 PM UTC

vacri wrote: post #82

sbarre wrote: post #49

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Do you really believe that? Or is that maybe carefully crafted language to fend off the parent's valid argument? Plenty of creators currently put their music on Soundcloud, Bandcamp, Youtube and more, and get exposure that way without getting paid. The choice is really up to the artist. I do agree that Apple has the ability to pay artists during the 3-month trial, but should they have to? I don't know.. btw not sayin…

> I do agree that Apple has the ability to pay artists during the 3-month trial, but should they have to? Unless the artist (or representative) have given them permission to use their content for free, they should absolutely have to. It's the same IP laws that Apple like to use in their own defence: you can't just use someone else's stuff without their permission and without remuneration. What do you think Apple woul…

Post by luma » Sun, Jun 21, 2015, 1:05 PM UTC

jws wrote: post #112

vacri wrote: post #75

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> Apple is incurring real costs. The labels, not so much. It's really weird that you specify "developing the software" as a real cost, but not "developing the music".

The labels costs are already sunk. The direct costs of the trial are all apple's.

Post by GFK_of_xmaspast » Sun, Jun 21, 2015, 1:12 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #40

nemik wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From http://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2015/6/13/apples-cash-dilem... it seems like Apple may not actually have the cash to do this, not in the USA at least and it would need to pay taxes on the cash it is holding outside the US to pay the majority US labels/producers/artists. Not that this excuses what they're trying to pull here or anything. By trying to weasel out of paying any US taxes, they can't spend their own…

Not defending apple for not paying artists, but I will defend their 'weaseling' out of US taxes. U.S. Corporate taxes are among the highest in the world and until Washington starts lowering their confiscatory tax rates, I would encourage all businesses to avoid repatriating earnings. A 10% tax rate is high enough.

Post by tdkl » Sun, Jun 21, 2015, 1:15 PM UTC

luma wrote: post #115

jws wrote: post #112

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The labels costs are already sunk. The direct costs of the trial are all apple's.

So creating software is hard and should be compensated, while creating music is easy and it should be given away for free. By your logic everyone should support The Pirate Bay because they developed the software and they foot the server bill to distribute content.