"wogrammer" ? Do we really need a word that exists purely to make the distinction between male and female programmers? Seems to me you're just a programmer, sex doesn't matter.
Maybe it's supposed to be an equivalent of brogrammer?
Meet the wogrammers – women in engineering
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#12This is getting more and more hilarous FFS. Will we have a special group for afroamerican women programmers ? Special group for mentally ill programmers ? Or what about vegan transgender programmers ? This kind of positive discrimination is really annoying and unfair. Using the right tool and right people should be free of all prejudices FFS
Yes it should be but it almost never is. We tend to prefer people who are like us and share cultural similarities to us. This means that people who may have contributions to make don't get the opportunity.
So these groups are important. They allow for people to advocate for themselves and to be heard as something more than a lone voice in the wilderness.
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#13Probably should have come up with a better name. The natural English syllabification of this is 'wog.ram.mers', rather than 'wo.gram.mers'. That's a barrel of worms you don't want to open!... Which is a shame, because such an initiative isn't one that should be pulled down because of something so superficial. EDIT: The natural British English syllabification, where 'wog' is a derogatory racial slur.
In my mind, strangely, it came out as "woeful programmers" - "women" didn't even occur to me. Obviously this name is every bit as bad as the execrable "brogrammers".
If they wanted to find a female equivalent to "brogrammer", "sisgrammer" would be closer.
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#14This is getting more and more hilarous FFS. Will we have a special group for afroamerican women programmers ? Special group for mentally ill programmers ? Or what about vegan transgender programmers ? This kind of positive discrimination is really annoying and unfair. Using the right tool and right people should be free of all prejudices FFS
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil.
In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and all programmers will be called programmers.
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#15Thats the most sexist word ever... kidogrammers, asianogrammers and bullshit ... get a life and stop seeing a gender, a race or anything else to your colleague and just expect from him/her being polite and positive. When will we get rid of this nonsense?
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#16"wogrammer" ? Do we really need a word that exists purely to make the distinction between male and female programmers? Seems to me you're just a programmer, sex doesn't matter.
It's not really about making the distinction, it's about recognizing a group of people (women) that have achieved something that, on average, women have a lot more trouble achieving for various reasons (including prejudice & friends).
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#17Thats the most sexist word ever... kidogrammers, asianogrammers and bullshit ... get a life and stop seeing a gender, a race or anything else to your colleague and just expect from him/her being polite and positive. When will we get rid of this nonsense?
Even aside from sexism (and the casually racist Euro-centric term 'wog') that's a very stupid word and they should feel ashamed for inventing it. It's as bad as 'murse'.
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#18the corporate media sure is interested in talking up women programmers....it is almost as if the media has a financial interest in increasing the supply of programmers....hmmm...the media gets its money from corporate advertising...corporations hire programmers...I wonder if there is a connection there....
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#20This is getting more and more hilarous FFS. Will we have a special group for afroamerican women programmers ? Special group for mentally ill programmers ? Or what about vegan transgender programmers ? This kind of positive discrimination is really annoying and unfair. Using the right tool and right people should be free of all prejudices FFS
As much as I dislike positive discrimination, I view it as a necessary evil. In the specific case of women in CS/CE, I think it's fair to say that the lack of women is rather troubling, and has roots in prejudice. So yeah, who knows. Maybe recognizing the success of women in this field might help restore some balance and one day make this positive discrimination unecessary. Then we won't need any special terms and al…
Does the same discrimination exist in nursing to restore the balance? Does it exist in child care services? In education?
Edit: for the clown who accused me of "fallacy of relative privation" - can you explain how my comparison is "completely unrelated to the subject at hand" ? One industry is constantly under scrutiny for its gender imbalance, everyone is summoned to take action and we justify discrimination for the "greater good", but others where the same problems are visible are left alone to live a quiet life.