Some long-term job listings, especially the vague ones, are dummies put there by recruitment firms who are keen to get you on their books.
Seen that job listing for a while, its no coincidence
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#1223% of interviews have a drug test. What's the incentive behind that?
To avoid addictive folks who will have a high incidence of no-show when on a binge. Or long absences while in jail.
It's interesting, because I've worked with a lot of people in a lot of places over the years and I've never seen drugs as a problem that impedes workplace attendance / performance. Alcohol / hangovers, sure - plenty of times - but they're not testing for that, right?
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#13Also: > Companies are in-undated with applications and really can't separate the wheat from the chaff. They have thousands of resumes for one or two job openings because its so easy now to apply online and click submit. Perversely the harder they make it to apply online, causes those most in need of a job to jump through hoops to fill out a complete application
Tried hiring help on a local jobs board I was swamped and astounded with volume and eagerness of the responses. Ended up going with someone who was recommended by a friend as I didn't have the resources to process and filter the applications
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
To avoid addictive folks who will have a high incidence of no-show when on a binge. Or long absences while in jail.
I can imagine what the theory is, but does it make sense in practice? Do you know which industries it tends to apply to? Would a developer be asked to take a drug test? It's interesting, because I've worked with a lot of people in a lot of places over the years and I've never seen drugs as a problem that impedes workplace attendance / performance. Alcohol / hangovers, sure - plenty of times - but they're not testing…
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#15I'm finally scheduled for an interview next week. But really, 60 days before even interviewing a candidate they already have experience with? I'm surprised they even manage to hire people before they are extended another offer. But then again, this is not programming.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
To avoid addictive folks who will have a high incidence of no-show when on a binge. Or long absences while in jail.
I can imagine what the theory is, but does it make sense in practice? Do you know which industries it tends to apply to? Would a developer be asked to take a drug test? It's interesting, because I've worked with a lot of people in a lot of places over the years and I've never seen drugs as a problem that impedes workplace attendance / performance. Alcohol / hangovers, sure - plenty of times - but they're not testing…
As i've moved up in job quality it has gone from "we will test you aggressively to see if you do drugs" to "why would we care about this?"
Practically it is very stupid because the heroin/meth/cocaine type drugs become undetectable within days while pot takes weeks.
It's a dumb US thing, basically.
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#18I personally have little confidence in job postings that I've seen available for at least three months. Similarly with apartments rentals - in a market where developers and apartments are high in demand I usually see it as a red flag if a job or apartment has been available for three or more months. It begs the questions - why didn't others take it? I never considered that the average interview process is getting lon…
This fails to take into consideration a growing team. We have had a single job listing open well over a year, but that single listing at one point represented 7 open positions. It's interesting to see this possible view. We might be better off posting duplicates to make this nuance more obvious.
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#20A couple of anecdotes:
I was able to hire an outstanding candidate simply because I got them through the process and extended them an offer. Our competition was a reasonably high-profile company in the area. In the end he joined us because after more than a week, the other company was unable to execute their paperwork to get an offer generated.
More recently, I saw a very big name West Coast company (think Google/Facebook/Uber) lose out on a great person because they had a third party do a reference check. In the time it took for that check to happen, the job seeker had lots of time to re-consider the offer and instead ended up working for a smaller company on the East Coast which kept in touch and was able to move blindingly fast.